Changelog 18/11/16 (2)

[Ugle]

Lols at reading the tears of ppl that are used to play their grossly overpowered unbalanced class. Keep up the good work on balancing Aza, and please don't back down on the changes due to their 'I quit' threats.

[roadkillrobin]

While its true that resource management is the key to a sucessfull ORVR healing WP/DoK. And to have good RF/SE regen you had to stay within 30-50 feet of the enemy frontline and this was the reasoning for the increased armor of the class aswell as the shorter casttimes. However the increased base armor and shorter cast times breaks the class surival in small scale. This is just another example why ballancing needs to be made with all scales of combat in mind not just 6man and not just 24 man. Blood Offering/Suplication made so you could play the classes as a backline healer with increased surviballity without actually hitting anyone And would be the thing i would look at rather then nerfing armor and chalices/books tbh.

However even with the 50% armor nerf in warbands i find the classes very competent. But I also find that WP got a much better deal here. As they are able to stack 55% disrupt rates wich can be boosted to 100% with HTL and have tactic that increase their healing on defended attacks aswell.
Destruction also have more casters wich increase the chance that you proc Exalted Defences. And this still rewards you for staying within 30-50 feet range of opposition while DoK have very little reason to go up to these ranges anymore in large scale fights. And both these tactics are extremly competent in melee healing mode aswell for the same reasons.

[Arbich]

But if you go frontline for RF-regen and get pressure, you can switch to devotion. As long as the cooldown stay low, I don´t see a problem with this.

edit: exalted defenses is useless for pure melee-healing, not? Since .ab ex I didn´t use it anymore, only heard that it´s not working on melee-heals.

[roadkillrobin]

But if you go frontline for RF-regen and get pressure, you can switch to devotion. As long as the cooldown stay low, I don´t see a problem with this.

edit: exalted defenses is useless for pure melee-healing, not? Since .ab ex I didn´t use it anymore, only heard that it´s not working on melee-heals.

If you switch to devotion to go closer to get better RF regen you loose your 8RF/Sec from PoA so this is counter productive

You use castheals while melee healing. ST HoT. AoE HoT, Divine Mend etz, the Willpower from boost from attacking would be completly useless if you didn't. (Also the Willpower boost adds to disrupt aswell forgot about that). This make Exalted Defences extremly good.

Melee Healing Spe:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=wp; ... 165:4159:0:
Renown:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#renown;000 ... 4000000000


Warband Healing Spec:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=wp; ... 165:4159:0:
Renown:
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#renown;000 ... 4000000000

[Arbich]

hm... sure... but you now have one other necessary tactic (grace of sigmar). exalted defenses was somewhat owerpowered on backline healer with full armor, now it is more balanced, I think.

[Azarael]

Interesting. I recall hearing something a while ago, what was it now...?

Oh, yes. DoK/WP are the premier healer in warbands because of their mechanics and short cast times.

Welcome to balance. If after an extended period, your lesser armor when backlining and refusal to shift under melee assault is a demonstrable problem for DoK/WP in ORvR, it will be adjusted via some method designed to target the RvR case. Until that point comes, you are no longer the dominant option and need to get used to it.

I think some are not accepting that DoK/WP were OP in small scale and significantly OP in warbands. The sooner you realize that you can and should be finding things more difficult, the better - but rest assured that I won't be responding immediately to such concerns, because adaptation doesn't happen overnight.

[roadkillrobin]

hm... sure... but you now have one other necessary tactic (grace of sigmar). exalted defenses was somewhat owerpowered on backline healer with full armor, now it is more balanced, I think.

Yeah I agree, hence I would like to see Exalted Defences and Sheild of Faith mirrored to DoK and replacing Transfer Focus and Bound by Blood.

[Baiikir]

Lols at reading the tears of ppl that are used to play their grossly overpowered unbalanced class. Keep up the good work on balancing Aza, and please don't back down on the changes due to their 'I quit' threats.

No WP or DOK in your character list, so you're post a troll, nothing else.
You said "grossly overpowered unbalanced class", can we talk about you're shaman class ? unkillable by a full WB cause kiting and heal himself while running ? let's talk about that and squig herder...

[Vdova]

Interesting. I recall hearing something a while ago, what was it now...?

Oh, yes. DoK/WP are the premier healer in warbands because of their mechanics and short cast times.

Welcome to balance. If after an extended period, your lesser armor when backlining and refusal to shift under melee assault is a demonstrable problem for DoK/WP in ORvR, it will be adjusted via some method designed to target the RvR case. Until that point comes, you are no longer the dominant option and need to get used to it.

I think some are not accepting that DoK/WP were OP in small scale and significantly OP in warbands. The sooner you realize that you can and should be finding things more difficult, the better - but rest assured that I won't be responding immediately to such concerns, because adaptation doesn't happen overnight.

Ok, I got it, but isnt 50% dmg/armor nerfing just... to much? You say it force dok switch between squishier backline healing and frontline melee healing, yet the cooldowns between covenants get massive CDs. I have made DoK before any changes to this class comes out, but in last few days more I play the class, found it more difficulty manage its mechanics because of constant nerfing, which making it less enjoyable. I am afraid more people will just reroll to Shamman/Zealot right now, not because of Dok/WP isnt dominant at last, but just because of simplier game mechanics.

[sotora]

am afraid more people will just reroll to Shamman/Zealot right now, not because of Dok/WP isnt dominant at last, but just because of simplier game mechanics.

That is assumption of three things at once , assuming they will reroll, that they will reroll destro and that they will reroll healer class.