[Rejected] Flames of Fate, Ensnare (break mechanics)

[zumos2]

At least Mara wouldn't because they have the M2 that does instanlty 1200 AoE damage. But that doesn't mean Ensnare/FoF aren't balanced. WL could think of using SN depending what match-up they are facing.

[Aranael]

Even if damage on Ensnare/FoF was set to 0 no one (sane) would take SN.

so basically you are saying that SN is the first priority morale 1 for other mdps classes in the game? you can't be serious with that comment - at least not if we are discussing T4 balance.

removing the damage would give both classes the following possibilities:
- offensive morale 1 (sever nerve)
- defensive morale 1 (confusing movements)
- cc morale 1 (ensnare / fof)

[Bozzax]

No I say the damage part of FoF/Ensnare mostly is irrelevant when used "properly" as a gap closer or move disabler.

[Annaise16]

Spoiler:

The durations should be changed back to 5 seconds.

spoiler by Penril - Explain why, or don't post at all.

[Akalukz]

Spoiler:

The durations should be changed back to 5 seconds.

Reduce to 5s and halve damage. Brings in some balance imo

spoiler by Penril - Again, explain why or don't post at all.

[simtex]

Spoiler:

Nerf duration, no dmg threshold.

spoiler by Penril - Same as above.

[TenTonHammer]

Spoiler:

If the root must break give it a dmg threshold and not rng 25%

spoiler by Penril - Same as above.

[Azarael]

Of what I've heard so far, reducing duration seems the best option. Reduced duration preserves a full 5s of root under attack if the M1s are used close in, while dropping the effective duration when used further away.

[Tesq]

remember that if snares or even a small KB happen you drop too much the effectiveness make it by base worse if used at range instead of melee. Just drop the duration to 5 should be enough in my opinon. Can also keep thread open and further change it later anyway.

[Saftdryck]

There was many good suggestions, but i endorce returning FoF/Ensnare back to 5sec. Touching damage or adding damage treshold would not be good idea.