Proc meta

[Ktana]

This was our group using procs

It's 50% dmg increase for a def tank from just 1 (!!!) flame of ruin proc. Whole gameplay looks like this: i hit 1 attack and enemy got 8+ dmg numbers, where dmg from my AA is 1( literally, 1 dmg) but summ of damage can be over 1k. Also procs have this bug- #8035 (bugtracker number)

[zumos2]

It's likely that the actual info from live wont be found so some time in the far future RoR will have to make its own decision on if procs should have icd and how long it should be.

We have already showed that the sorc/BW proc didn't have an ICD on live.

I tried to find out how it worked on live , and it was very difficult finding an appropriate video of a mdps using the proc with proper ui visibility of its applications. The closest i found was this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdJgheowSiE ( go to 2:19-2:20 and slow it down) - from this the icd(if it existed which i doubt) was lower then 1s-

[zumos2]

Thats procs realy break game now.

Maybe u can turn off all Covenants, Prayer and sorc/bw buffs, while u looking for reliable source, or person, for the ICD of various procs.

Bring me more ... <3

[zumos2]

It is very cheesetastic tbh.

NOMNOMNOM

[Vdova]

Admittedly, My only character on destro is a Z and I never played them on Live, so I don't claim to be the best at discussing destro classes. But seriously? Your Meta has 3 DoKs? Don't mean to derail thread on this point, but seriously, there is no "incentive" to carry sham/Z at all? 3 DoKs seem's excessive.

Shaman is bad. In my entire time on this game I have never encountered a premade running a shaman that didn't fold up like lawnchairs. If Knight didn't have triple shatter it wouldn't be so bad and we might see pocket strats with morale pump from Ere We Go but even then it will still probably leave something to be desired.

Considering Aza has been making some balance tweaks I don't know why shaman hasn't been buffed(or knight nerfed). I shouldn't have to go back to the first few weeks of me being on this server and dig up my thread about tripleshatter making shamans completley dumpster tier.

Maybe because there are plenty of counter abbilities making shamman tools(kiting,healing) less viable. Ranged KDs, ranged morale roots(WL,IB), DPS kniht who shatter up to 3 blessings at time, and for the last and not at least Pounce. Most if this order realm just doesnt need to face against.

[Tesq]

some ppl are like discovering the hot water for the first time , it's from live that things like procs are generally refered as op, if it dind't even worked prevent proc to proc other procs as in live, they should be nerfed again and for good this time.

[Niky]

Procs proced only from direct damage, but Ability+FOR+Covenant+Covenant+AA+FOR+Covenant+Covenant and u have full def tank with Witchbrew.

If u have DOK with +50%AA and offhand weapon u have Ability+AA+AA+3FOR+6Covenants procs.

[Smellybelly]

Offhand attacks is actually a proc from the mainhand (46% chance i think) but it can still proc another proc, such as frozen fury or covenants as far as i know. Trouble with doks is they have pretty low dmg on each attack, but lots of fast attacks (auto attack, ability, devouring essence etc) that ramp up procs. Take that away and they end up at the gy with dps warrior priests. At the same time though, more hard hitting classes like slayers, marauders, even tanks as you pointed out above etc benefit just as much if not more. And as you say, break the balance quite readily.

[Danielle]

You think procs comps are a cheesetactic? You should be happy my guild didn't want to run the full and true cheddar eidam gouda composition that would really make everyone shed a tear of suffering and pain. I can just pray to Tzeentch noone else can think of it, lest the bugtracker get swarmed again about a thing that isn't a bug.

[Smellybelly]

Would it not be better to let the devs know about it then if its so broken? (not a bug, just insanely unbalanced)