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[zabis]

@Thelen - During NA times, there is nothing going on in oRVR, pretty much just scenarios. So, you'll have dur3al's example of 3 premades running, and one that is waiting on the "premade scenario" to end

[Thelen]

@Thelen - During NA times, there is nothing going on in oRVR, pretty much just scenarios. So, you'll have dur3al's example of 3 premades running, and one that is waiting on the "premade scenario" to end

I mean, run solo-queue then. If the population is that bad, the alternative is you have all those premades getting into scenarios making life hell for the 18 PUG players they are getting matched up against. Someone has to get the short end of the stick.

[dur3al]

Premade groups can move to ORvR if scen pops aren't fast enough for them. If the majority of the population is solo-queuers (as poll seems to suggest), then they shouldn't suffer because the minority enjoys the easy renown. Premades now aren't queuing looking for a fair fight or a challenge. They are queuing because scenarios are the quickest way of farming renown, and its super easy when encountering PUG groups that can't get a single kill against your group.

You are seriously missing the complete point of playing a MMO.
People don't group to "enjoy easy renown", people group up because IT IS FUN TO PLAY WITH YOUR FRIENDS. You know? The main reason why people play a game with OTHER players is to play together, that is the whole POINT of playing an online game. Easy renown from forming groups is a consequence of playing together building groups. If you want to play alone then go play a single-player game, so the mean people who "play together" can't harm you.

If anything, grouping and making premades should be something that is rewarded rather then punished.

[zabis]

180 votes, that is 10% of the population, or less. I really hope that less than 10% of the population isn't going to trump common sense.

[Boulderbolg]

As usual, the masses want the lowest common denominator.

There are enough easy mode games out there. All you have to do is make some friends. It's not that hard, you can do it.

[Gerv]

While it clearly will be implemented, it is a test period, all we can do is try it out and provide feedback. If it turns out to be completely negative then I am sure the dev team will revert the changes.

Who knows, maybe not many pugs will even realize, considering what percentage on registered accounts actually visit the forums.

[Kali14]

Voting yes. We play for fun, not for any high ideas. This always was very not fair playing with random people in team against very good organized parties.

[Boulderbolg]

While it clearly will be implemented, it is a test period, all we can do is try it out and provide feedback. If it turns out to be completely negative then I am sure the dev team will revert the changes.

Who knows, maybe not many pugs will even realize, considering what percentage on registered accounts actually visit the forums.

It will be negative for the minority of organized scenario players, and positive for majority puggers. If the majority out rule the minority generally in this community, then organized scenario players are just going to have to stop being organized because the population can't support two different systems. Sucks to be them.

[DefinitelyNotWingz]

Voted "No" because I think it is bad to discourage/punish organized play by a slower sc pop rate or any other kind of way.
On live everything that offered a higher reward than annihilator gear (keep takes) required a certain amount of organized play (whether as a wb or a grp, for example city instances, a fortress or a dungeon).
Without a doubt this must be the same in RoR, more effort for better gear. Mercenary gear can be BiS gear atm.
I wonder about the next steps in RoR, will there be a pug version for taking a fortress, with a weaker lord or no defenders? A solo dungeon? A pve-only city instance?

Just giving my vote and the reason behind, if it is worth a ban so be it.....

[Kali14]

Hard to quote everybody who is on "NO". You may write many different things which are just lies. But the main reason of LAMENT, premade-scenario players is their FEAR. Now they will be farmed by players which they farmed before as 6 v 1 and they very good know this. I don't belive they gonna have CHAURAGE to join solo SC. Another thing is easy renown which they now get from group killing low level players and they protest against cheanges. They will still have option for SC premade but only against another SC premade. This cheanges are very good and I explained where is the problem.