Destro pug sc quality

[peterthepan3]

I have to echo the thoughts of the OP. Everyone is entitled to play how they want/etc, but it would just be nice if people decided to learn basic fundamentals of their class/grouping with others. as someone who rarely does rvr and queues scenarios 99% of the time with a premade, you can see that - on the whole - order pugs are better 'equipped' than their destro counterparts (for a variety of reasons, such as those that Jacub mentioned - rdps have it easier, etc.)

[Yaliskah]

Mmm i can agree most of your msg Shifty.

There is a thing many players ( new players?) doesn't understand in this game. There are many lvl of playing. I learned myself on official when i played with a premade for the first time.

I think, unless you experience how a premade works, you won't have any idea of your character potential and so, won't be able to really understand your role in a sc, in RvR or PvE in a gpe.

Some don't care and it's a pity for them, they miss 90% of the pleasure of this game, but i'm pretty sure all of us can participate and help "pugs" ( don't like this word) to have a better understanding of their possibility.

Be solo doesn't mean don't speak with anyone.

My advice for all who are alone and won't join a guild : Ask questions when you see a player doing great actions, ask for advices, etcetc.. you'll see, you will enjoy the game 100000% (and your team mates too).

My 3 personnal advices :
1- Positionning
2- Positionning
3- Positionning

[Shifty]

ye thanks yaliskah
but u forgot some advice... 4 : positioning :O
jk but u know what i mean
and what u said is complete true...theyre missing so much

but i think most of these who dont understand the game arent new players....sadly
they can be powerleveld...sure..even i sell powerleveling but mostly for toons of already lvl 40 players
and if i encounter a "fresh" player i give him advice on the way leveling
so they have atleast a direction to go to and make exp

sadly and still true
not everyone pays that much attention or interest in gaining xp
and the problem is...like every other rvr pvp "competition like game
that the "pugs - newbs - fresh ones" ruining the game for the "middle to pro like players"
u saw it at WoW u saw it at gw2 u saw it at Bdo
in nearly every good game ;(
iam not sure how to fix that problem
but ppl need to make a move sooner or later THEMSELFES
or we wont improve in general

[Shifty]

right now playing scs with a dok m8
and got a 6man premade "fusion" grp
all they can say is "let em take free objective"
while they sit back and enjoy the show
rlly rlly sad
even a 6man guild premade sitting back and waiting for loose
there was no reason to do that
and still all they do is harass and sit back waiting for the playing ones to die

[Luicetarro]

The only thing you can do is asking them, if they want some advice.
Yelling at someone, or giving them 'helpful tips' without asking won't change a lot.

Welcome to the internet, you just discovered things I learned since the first mmos.

And keep in mind, this game has a rather high skillcap. It's not as casual as todays mmos. Ppl wanna hop online, have some fun and leave again. The time a random person is checking google for hours to improve won't get spend by your everyday player.

Grab the promising ones, teach them and let PUGs have it their PUG-way.

[Shifty]

yo footpatrol ...iam not saying u doing bad (finding ppl to play along is a good thing)
but i played on live too
i dit nearly the same and was succesfull
same here
but giving u an example of why iam salty bout some players
u have a shaman in ur guild which is literally queing for scs
and either going afk or random dotting and dying ALL THE TIME
same for ur sh
hes playing meele squig armor sh
which is IN FACT
the worst spec ever to play hes not helping
supporting or doing anything good in general
just sucking up the heals and dying soon

so u should maybe check what ppl u got in ur guild just a tip
ur literally supporthing those who dont play a good build
and thats m8 is something i rlly hate

[Penril]

You don't get to decide what specs other people are allowed to run, no matter how much you hate them. If you have so many issues with pugs, I suggest making your own premade. Or just direct the pugs to one of the many guides you have found.

This thread has nothing to do in the Guilds section. Locking.