Cheating? [Solved]

[Vanderthorn]

Before I want to call someone a cheat, I need to know a few things.

What I just saw made me wanna throw something.

Are there 'balance enhancements' when it comes to RvR? I just saw a level 3 dwarf, stumble around as 5 people were beating on him. He should have been dead in a couple hits at best, instead he never went under 90% hp. He lasted longer than any toon I've ever seen getting thwacked by 5 other toons. Then he called us 'scrubs' as I stood there, amazed, as if somehow his superior game play makes him that good.

In real-ish terms, I hit him no less than 11 times, and the others did the same thing, chasing him around about 500 yards of terrain. My toon is level 12, and has some higher renown battle gear. About this time a wave of allies poured over and killed us all...of course, in about 8 hits.

Was this some overly compensated 'balance' thing?
Was this a MOD picking on us?
Or was this guy a flat out cheat?

Someone please let me know.

-V

[Luuca]

Cheating? probably not.

Healer you didn't see? Maybe.

Bolster? Definitely.

Scrubs? Maybe.

[Theseus]

Before I want to call someone a cheat, I need to know a few things.

What I just saw made me wanna throw something.

Are there 'balance enhancements' when it comes to RvR? I just saw a level 3 dwarf, stumble around as 5 people were beating on him. He should have been dead in a couple hits at best, instead he never went under 90% hp. He lasted longer than any toon I've ever seen getting thwacked by 5 other toons. Then he called us 'scrubs' as I stood there, amazed, as if somehow his superior game play makes him that good.

In real-ish terms, I hit him no less than 11 times, and the others did the same thing, chasing him around about 500 yards of terrain. My toon is level 12, and has some higher renown battle gear. About this time a wave of allies poured over and killed us all...of course, in about 8 hits.

Was this some overly compensated 'balance' thing?
Was this a MOD picking on us?
Or was this guy a flat out cheat?

Someone please let me know.

-V

what class was he?

I wont say it cant be cheating, but i really wouldnt know how to do it, without drawing every gm on the server to you.

[Dabbart]

Well...

A lvl 5 Dwarf could be either a slayer, an IB, or a RP. A RP can heal it's self, and IB is a Tank. I doubt it was a slayer.

However, before you even mention cheating you should do some research. Number 1, check your Combat Log in Chat. I suggest that you set your Chat filter to show Damage Received in 1 window, and Damage Done in another window for ease of use. Now, check the damage you did. This will tell you a LOT. You will see Damage done, damage mitigated, and damage absorbed. Mitigation counts Toughness/armor(or resistances). This log will also show if your attacks are being blocked/parried/dodged/disrupted. These are all types of Evasion, which negate the attack.

All classes have a damage mitigator called Detaunt. Detaunt reduces the damage done from selected target(or an AoE effect for some classes) by 50%. There is also Guarding(via another tank) which reduces damage by 50%. Some classes(RP/zealot and I'm sure others) have other abilities to reduce the damage received. Most classes have some type of absorp as well.

At such low lvl RR abilities shouldn't be factored, nor high lvl Morales or tactics. But I have no idea what lvl MDPS/others get their 100% evasion Morale 1. So it could be that as well.

At a wild guess, I am thinking that you and a group of PUGs tried wailing on an IB/RP that had a healer hiding somewhere or was self healing. He evaded most of your attacks, and got healed for the rest. Even if he had no healer, he could still of used a Pot.

You should DL the Addon Buffhead. This can be set-up to show you if your enemy has Detaunted you, or what active effects they have on them.

Gl!

[Theseus]

Well...

A lvl 5 Dwarf could be either a slayer, an IB, or a RP. A RP can heal it's self, and IB is a Tank. I doubt it was a slayer.

However, before you even mention cheating you should do some research. Number 1, check your Combat Log in Chat. I suggest that you set your Chat filter to show Damage Received in 1 window, and Damage Done in another window for ease of use. Now, check the damage you did. This will tell you a LOT. You will see Damage done, damage mitigated, and damage absorbed. Mitigation counts Toughness/armor(or resistances). This log will also show if your attacks are being blocked/parried/dodged/disrupted. These are all types of Evasion, which negate the attack.

All classes have a damage mitigator called Detaunt. Detaunt reduces the damage done from selected target(or an AoE effect for some classes) by 50%. There is also Guarding(via another tank) which reduces damage by 50%. Some classes(RP/zealot and I'm sure others) have other abilities to reduce the damage received. Most classes have some type of absorp as well.

At such low lvl RR abilities shouldn't be factored, nor high lvl Morales or tactics. But I have no idea what lvl MDPS/others get their 100% evasion Morale 1. So it could be that as well.

At a wild guess, I am thinking that you and a group of PUGs tried wailing on an IB/RP that had a healer hiding somewhere or was self healing. He evaded most of your attacks, and got healed for the rest. Even if he had no healer, he could still of used a Pot.

You should DL the Addon Buffhead. This can be set-up to show you if your enemy has Detaunted you, or what active effects they have on them.

Gl!

As far as I know, the detaunt comes at level 8.

[Vanderthorn]

Possibly, like I said, I didn't throw the name out there, yet, because I wanted to know what I might be missing. The Dwarf was an RP.

However, he was lvl 3 vs 5 10-13 toons, I don't care how good the healer is, if they can't heal me enough to survive the same onslaught, there's no way he could.

Nearly all of the attacks hit, the damage was showing on screen.

[Geezer]

Could have been guarded as well.

[wargrimnir]

At very low levels the game does heavily Bolster a character for RvR. It normalizes around level 5. If he had a few pieces of decent R3 gear and a healer or two, it could happen.

Type .gmlist in-game, or ask for one in advice. There's usually at least one online, even if they're not flagged. We also check our PM's on the forum.

[Toonman]

OP is 100% right, I ran into this same RP Monday in a T1 SC. He was lvl 3. He was alone with none of his team close by and I was on my 11 Mara, and there was also a WE, Chosen and BG attacking him. HP never dropped below 90%. Guy should have dropped in 4 seconds. Dude just /lol at us and we moved on to other targets. Should have grabbed a screenshot.

[StormX2]

This is simply a case of the overbolster system. it helps low lvl toons who will likely not have gear and talismans slotted, perform at higher value ratings for some stats. Armor is one of them.