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Re: Order vs Destro

Post#31 » Sun May 08, 2016 1:36 am

Arbich wrote:
freshour wrote:Warrior Priest vs DoK

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DoK > WP - before the crocodile tears come out, yes WP get 20% more healing after a disrupt/dodge/etc if they are running that. But.... DoK's will either take AOE detaunt (yes its insane for a backline healer to have in his bag) or the chance to heal themselves for 25% of their heals which adds loads to your survivability. I mean the two are pretty close the only reason I really say DoK over WP for backline healer is b/c the DoK really does do everything better. Take the best healing WP vs the best healing DoK and the DoK will outheal every single day of the week. They are just built to last a little more than a WP is.
Hm... I disagree. backline WP > backline DoK.
WP can also have the AOE detaunt. Higher parry is nice, but not that important to a backline healer compared to 20% more healing (virtually) all the time.
DoK is better melee, WP is better backline healer. Both are too strong and deserve a nerf. :D


Euhhhh not really man, DoK > WP :ugeek:

DoK cleanse just clean really more class dots/debuff than the WP cleanse + DoK have the Cleasing All m2, make him just better, about healing it's same.
That's make DoK > WP as healer or dps.
PS : If u play with the tactic +20% healing with parry/dodge/disrupt on WP in T3! you are just wrong, you should respec :)
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Re: Order vs Destro

Post#32 » Sun May 08, 2016 2:29 am

arnagob wrote: Euhhhh not really man, DoK > WP :ugeek:

DoK cleanse just clean really more class dots/debuff than the WP cleanse + DoK have the Cleasing All m2, make him just better, about healing it's same.
That's make DoK > WP as healer or dps.
PS : If u play with the tactic +20% healing with parry/dodge/disrupt on WP in T3! you are just wrong, you should respec :)
This... so much truthfullness. The only important thing WP can cleanse is Sorc's dots and choppa's debuffs. Dok can cleanse SW, Slayer, WH, BW... So basically, dok cleanses the 4 order dps that have an inc heal debuff. WP cleanse 1 heal debuffing classes out of 4.

In my book, this makes a much bigger difference then a 20% bonus healing that never procs... Cause, let's face it, if you don't suk on healing WP, nobody ever attacks you unless all your team is dead. So the only way to reliably proc Exalted defense is to stand in a magus purple mistpuddle of love.

Magus is purple ! Magus is love ! Buff Magus so there are more mistpuddle of love around, so i can use exalted defense on my WP !
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Re: Order vs Destro

Post#33 » Sun May 08, 2016 3:02 am

arnagob wrote:


Euhhhh not really man, DoK > WP :ugeek:

DoK cleanse just clean really more class dots/debuff than the WP cleanse + DoK have the Cleasing All m2, make him just better, about healing it's same.
That's make DoK > WP as healer or dps.
PS : If u play with the tactic +20% healing with parry/dodge/disrupt on WP in T3! you are just wrong, you should respec :)
hm... true, I should have count clease. But I am fairly certain that this M2 has no future, when balance forums open.

About the 20% healing tactic, I disagree. Your point is only valid in 6vs6 encounters. In all other situations (means almost everytime), it will proc, constantly. Because of AOE, people doing mistakes, a roaming Magus etc. :D
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