Question about WP and DoK

[wanna993]

Hi everyone, I have a question about those two classes. I tend to roll healers and was fiddling around with a WP (got him to 7 for basics). I'm a terrible melee though, so my question is how much melee-ing do I have to do to heal efficiently as either of those classes?

Most of my offensive things are melee ofc, but outside of my 10s cd to restore my healing resource I'd have to spam some melee stuff to build it up. It seems I get some buffs/debuffs (the str and initiative ones) from using melee abilities too, so it feels important to weave in and out of fights. But I feel I get blown up if i try it. I'm guessing there's going to be some more option to not melee down the line (saw an AP using heal, and things like gear giving the healing resource).

[adei]

If you want to heal you can equip either a chalice (DoK) or a book (WP) in your offhand, these will give you + resource

[Lileldys]

You dont have to melee to heal.
Melee healing is weaker than Ranged healing, which becomes a lot more apparent later on.

You need to get a Tome for WP, and a Chalice for DoK. These provide passive Righteous Fury/Soul Essence.
Also skills called Blood Offering and Supplication will grant these resources in a channel for AP.
Later on you'll get Smite/Essence Lash which grants 15RF/SE per person you hit.

[wanna993]

Later on you'll get Smite/Essence Lash which grants 15RF/SE per person you hit.

Hit as in melee or heal?

Supplication only gives 150 fury every 10seconds, is the 6 fury/sec from tome enough to offset that?
About Fury, when I use a fury spender, does my AP still regenerate? On my zealot as soon as I start a cast AP freezes, but i felt like it didn't on the WP as long as I casted a Fury based heal.

What about the melee based buffs? are those negligible? Or purely situational (i.e. use if there's a lone tank overextending) so it's more like a bonus rather that part of the rotation .

[Lileldys]

Later on you'll get Smite/Essence Lash which grants 15RF/SE per person you hit.

Hit as in melee or heal?

Supplication only gives 150 fury every 10seconds, is the 6 fury/sec from tome enough to offset that?
About Fury, when I use a fury spender, does my AP still regenerate? On my zealot as soon as I start a cast AP freezes, but i felt like it didn't on the WP as long as I casted a Fury based heal.

What about the melee based buffs? are those negligible? Or purely situational (i.e. use if there's a lone tank overextending) so it's more like a bonus rather that part of the rotation .

Smite/Essence Lash is a AoE-Cone infront of you. It's one of the best ways to generate RF/SE, granting 135 every 5seconds. It's main downside is you have to be close, and can get jumped by the enemy.

You'll get a higher tier tome/chalice which grants 8/sec in tier2. Tome/Chalice doesn't replace the need for supplication, but Tome/Challice+Smite/EssenceLash+Supplicate/BloodOffering together give you enough to become the best healer ingame.
AP only regenerates every second when out of GCD. GCD 1.1s. GCD is when you start casting, you get put into a cooldown before you can activate the next skill.

Issue you'll have right now is that the main heal you have costs 55Rf/Se, which isn't great when you have to keep multiple people alive.

Buffs don't stack, so if a KotBS is using strength aura, its useless. Also potions count as buffs, so don't stack with it either. The only one you'll want to mainly use it Castigation, as there aren't loads of initiative debuffs availible.

[Ramasee]

Basically a WP does not have to fight in melee, but he does have to fight closer to the front line. A significant portion of your RF/SE generation will come from smite/lash. WP/DOK healing is much harder until you get most of your tools, such as the AP heal, smite/lash, Gheal, and a purple tome. After you have those things, you become a ridiculous AoE healer that only gets better as you get more abilities from the Path of Salvation.

[vove]

Just wanted to add my 10 cents: it has no point to use a book of low quality as the resource regen is really low on green ones (you have to pray a lot), so so on blue ones and quite good on purple ones.

What I can suggest is go dual wield/2h until T2 where you can buy the book/chalice for influence. Then run around with 1h+resource regen and check what suits you better. Then from T3 on start tailoring towards it.

If you don't like the mechanics of resource regen for melee hitting maybe try runepriest or zealot? I really like playing runepriest, imho more fun than archmage.

[wanna993]

Thanks for all the tips. Things are a lot easier now with some gear and lvl 11. The regen definitely helps with all the channels and casts. The class is fun to play and feels really strong with 2 resources.