Mara vs WL

[iraoul]

OT: I feel that giving the WL pet an aoe detaunt that it can maintain regularly would be a step in the right direction: would mean that people trying to focus the lion would have to spend 5-ish seconds on trying to kill it (which seems about fair to me, as opposed to the 1/2 atm), alleviating pressure on actual players and allowing the order side to focus another target while the enemy kills the poor kitty

Give him invincibility, a special ability that give all party member a pounce that ae kd for 10 sec, and MAYBE, I SAY MAYBE WL would be balanced.

This thread yo.

[roadkillrobin]

A bomb pug wb can perform reasoably well out of the box while a pug 6man probably needs to play the same group for a couple of months before winning their first 6v6 vs somthing that counts.

The diff imo is the quality of the opposition

Its the same for both. Some warbands consistantly preforms better then others coz they are better. Its the same reason why one choir sounds better then another one even tho they sing the exact same song.

[peterthepan3]

difference being a pug WB can have some success while a pug 6man in a 6v6 without having had any training/sessions before will not. why are we still posting unrelated stuff :/

[bloodi]

why are we still posting unrelated stuff :/

Because you have to insert your "6vs6 is the only true game" narrative in every god damn thread.

[DefinitelyNotWingz]

But that would just be your opinion. I personally find 6v6 extremely boring myself. Assisting, kiting, assisting, running away, assisting, chasing, assisting, kiting some more, zzzz. But I'm not going to tell you that what you love to do "requires no skill".

Cant directly answer that without a personal attack against you or kings own so I wont.

But let me tell you this:

In a premade wb vs wb fight it only takes a skilled leader (maybe some assistants), if the others just do what he says, the wb will do just fine.
Whether it is a bombing wb, a moral dropping one (mdps) or even a st melee assist wb. I played in all of those versions on live.
Such a wb can have many casuals, but if they do what the leader says there is not much difference to skilled players that are also doing what the leader says.
So skill mostly doesnt matter here.

In 6on6 you cant allow your grp to have a weak link. Every single member matters and has to be skilled. Therefore 6on6 requires more skill.

Spoiler:

please dont ban

[Azarael]

Have no intention of banning for that, because it's exactly what I think as well. Well, aside from the implied personal attack bit.

That said, the point that this topic has been derailed, and that I've contributed to that as well, is valid. The discussion regarding large/small scale play should move elsewhere.

[roadkillrobin]

Its related tho. As WL bring close to nothing to a order Bomb group while Marauders is very viable for Destruction. Then the 6man elitists intervened with their opinions that WL should be a strictly single target dmg based class. The class can easily be tweaked to fit in both.

[peterthepan3]

Its related tho. As WL bring close to nothing to a order Bomb group while Marauders is very viable for Destruction. Then the 6man elitists intervened with their opinions that WL should be a strictly single target dmg based class. The class can easily be tweaked to fit in both.

I find it unfair that people such as yourself are allowed to call anyone who suggests something that doesn't conform with wb/aoe 'elitists'.

Because you have to insert your "6vs6 is the only true game" narrative in every god damn thread.

Way to miss the point of what we were saying bloodi - as per usual. read over everything and tell me what you disagree with instead of assumptions..

[Scrilian]

Trying out WL for the first time in my life atm
Pet management is not that hard but the kitty gets 2shotted too often regardless of heals/stances :c

[bloodi]

Way to miss the point of what we were saying bloodi - as per usual.

You asked why this has been derailed, i am not missing any point, is has been derailed because as per usual, you entered in another argument as to why the way you play is more skillfull than everyone else who doesnt play like you.

Why do you people care so much about what true skill means is lost on me, actually no, is no that is lost, is that i perphaps outgrown it a while ago.

So i am just replying to what you asked, you dont want threads being derailed? Stop derailing them.