[Blackguard] Blade of Ruin disscussion

[TenTonHammer]

Anti detaunt is ment to enable the better killing of casters

Therefore should it not remain in the anti caster tree?

[Gobtar]

Anti detaunt is ment to enable the better killing of casters

Therefore should it not remain in the anti caster tree?

I suppose that is true, the tree concepts are a little strange. I see Anguish of less a stict anti-caster tree and more of a general "other". In Anguish we have Elite Training (casters don't really melee), Furious Howl and Brutal Smash. I am happy to keep Unstoppable Fury in the Anguish tree. Just felt it was more appropriate in the DPS tree, didn't mean to distract from the main conversation.

[TenTonHammer]

one thing that i would like to see but will be most likely opposed on the grounds of "destroying" the loathing tree is easier access to WoS just like how easy it is for IB to access eathshatter

however WoS is the one and main attraction to loathing meaning if it was moved somewhere else no one will really want to invest in loathing


Now back to the subjest at hand

what if BoR worked like skull thumper is that when you apply it everytime the target is crit they would take additional spirit damage? this would let them synergize nicely with sorcs

[Gobtar]

one thing that i would like to see but will be most likely opposed on the grounds of "destroying" the loathing tree is easier access to WoS just like how easy it is for IB to access eathshatter

however WoS is the one and main attraction to loathing meaning if it was moved somewhere else no one will really want to invest in loathing

I think WoS could still have a place in Loathing especially with my suggestion just swap it with None-shall pass, it could lead to a tri-spec that allows a reasonably powerful 2h spec with some utility. BoR will always have the Parry/Block trigger which is why I was going more for a YMM like ability with an added bonus of proccing KD if using a 2h. It would have a good place in mid-Loathing.

I have a feeling we are going to have this whole conversation again when the balance forums open

I think ST is a great ability, but I think the BG needs more utility and less damage, while ST has synergy with others, it is ultimately more damage.

[footpatrol2]

I'd really hate to see blade of ruin be made into a 2hnder ability.

Due to the location of Blade of ruin on the tree and the tree's abilities that it is tied too, its a decent off spec ability.

Malice spec line isn't necessarily a 2hnder spec tree. You can still go SnB in that spec tree and not lose cc. The only ability that requires a 2nder in that spec tree is Crimson death.

I think at most damage value's should be played around with blade of ruin and thats it.

[Lexxx20]

I think ST is a great ability, but I think the BG needs more utility and less damage, while ST has synergy with others, it is ultimately more damage.

Excuse me, but what is ST?

[Harukiko]

hello!my opinion is geave to blackguard 3 seconds KD.malice is dps path & blackguard dont have such ability with 2h,like iron breaker have.make it require great weapon,require disrupt.blackguard is an caster killer so lets stey on hem origine.he will be at back lines dealing with casters so 3sec KD on disrupt i think is good for this class.sry for my english!!!

[Harukiko]

i forget.haw many blackguards is playing loathing?i see most of them going malice/anguysh snb or 2h.but loathing few ppl is playing.geave to class whot it is more eficient for hem.

[Gachimuchi]

hello!my opinion is geave to blackguard 3 seconds KD.malice is dps path & blackguard dont have such ability with 2h,like iron breaker have.make it require great weapon,require disrupt.blackguard is an caster killer so lets stey on hem origine.he will be at back lines dealing with casters so 3sec KD on disrupt i think is good for this class.sry for my english!!!

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[Bozzax]

Monstrous Ruin could give 25feet cone that snares for 40%up to 3 targets on Blade of Ruin?

Useless ability and tactic made less useless - check!
Cookie cutter spec not stronger - check!

or Monstrous Ruin could give 25feet cone 2s AOE KD up to 3 targets on Blade of Ruin?