SW weakest class?

[Foxbeep]

@druin namely that BW/Sorc burst is actually reliable and doesn't revolve around blowing all your cool downs on one target, and can happen more than once a minute ;^)

In all seriousness they can't be compared for the reasons Druin, Lileldys and I outlined.

[Tklees]

@druin namely that BW/Sorc burst is actually reliable and doesn't revolve around blowing all your cool downs on one target, and can happen more than once a minute ;^)

In all seriousness they can't be compared for the reasons Druin, Lileldys and I outlined.

BW/Sorc burst is more reliable on non skilled players. A good healer is cleansing and healing you through it, due to a lack of a Heal debuff and obvious load up on target.

[Sizer]

If fester was nerfed because there was no counterplay, why has eye shot not received the same treatment? Or what, is the counterplay being able to hit RD in the 1/2s it takes for the eye shot animation to hit you?

I mean, i'm all for a fester nerf, it was a dumb skill, but it would be nice if things were consistent.

[paps]

I don't think SW is weak at all, I love mine and I wreak hell with her.

I neva sad SW is weak, and neva had noting against nerf... just saying dont call it 1 shot when it not.

No I didn't know you needed "m2". I thought it needed Unshakeable Focus like I mentioned in my post

I didnt expect u to answer me my real question...
SO u didnt read all my post or u just ignoring what i wrote. So why u even reply with sentence got out for content?

Wrong!

[paps]

1. Festerbombing was nerfed because no ability should 1 shot anyone. Unshakeable focus is still one of the strongest morals in the game.

1 shot? U know u need to have moral 2 up, us it, use VON and Steady Aim wile arrow is flying. So that are 4 Abilitys, u need to get M2 use it that is 1.1 sec gcd + 3 sec FA fast + 1 sec fly time (maybe less) that is around 5 sec for around 5k dmg, u want to tell me sorc/bw cant do same dmg in 5 sec?

Ugh, we discussed a thousand times why you can't compare FA with Sorc/BW rotation...

yes i know that is more OP no1 guards and heals SW

[roadkillrobin]

With armor vallues being close to 10 lvls behind SW and SH are probobly the strongest they ever been. SW in particular might be the strongest ST dps in the game atm. The nerf of the Split Arrows tactics for Run n Shoot and Spiral Fletch Arrow i've always felt was a mistake devs made back on live and it would be nice to restore this tactic to its original. Or atleast just denerf it a bit.

[Lileldys]

If fester was nerfed because there was no counterplay, why has eye shot not received the same treatment? Or what, is the counterplay being able to hit RD in the 1/2s it takes for the eye shot animation to hit you?

I mean, i'm all for a fester nerf, it was a dumb skill, but it would be nice if things were consistent.

If you notice Broadhead Arrow and Shadow Sting on you, you should know a RKD is coming. With a good guard + healers, RKD means little. I've seen many good comps with sorcs/sh/magus whom don't get wrecked by a RKD. The Orz guys show this well when they're about.
When RKD comes first in the line of damage, then its harder to counter play, but they have no damage preloaded, so i see little issue again.

[greenstoned]

not sure how one can even consider us weak atm... tbh i was a bit scared to try and invest time in the class at first, since back on live sw was plagued by the insane amount of mitigation armor stacking could reach

on RoR atm, we seem to be alright with that, and hopefully mitigation wont get out of control as new stuff unlocks

yes, like any rpds, facing a melee heavy team while lacking melee on your side will make it hard to perform.
yes, like any other rdps, if you dont react in time and pre kite, once mdps reach you you will melt really fast

unlike most ppl, i rarely use eye shot to kite, i mostly use it mid rotation to cc healers i wanna kill, altho im not 35 yet on that one so having our silence should help, but still the kd also prevents the target from getting away

the self punt, tho, is a very precious survival tool, as it will help you against those melee heavy destro trains, as the snare and rkd are single target only

i seem to be spending more time in scout stance than most, altho i do spec skirmisher, since u pretty much cant do without the tactic at 11 and the heal debuff at 9. swapping is off gcd, low cooldown, and can easily be bound on accessible keys

so basicly, we have good cc, our dmg is alright, good burst as well if you use the right skillz in the right order and care about flight time, decent kiteability, no more soft than other rdps, even a bit better with the assault stance, and the mitigation we face atm isnt too bad either... the class in a good place atm, far from the weakest. id complain about the state of engi before the sw any time

my only wish i guess is too see the tactic at 11 skirmisher lowered a bit, its a must have and going so far up in the tree pretty much means commiting to it, doesnt leave much room for spec variations and hybrids

[Foxbeep]

If fester was nerfed because there was no counterplay, why has eye shot not received the same treatment? Or what, is the counterplay being able to hit RD in the 1/2s it takes for the eye shot animation to hit you?

I mean, i'm all for a fester nerf, it was a dumb skill, but it would be nice if things were consistent.

I hate to be the one to break it to you that a skill that kills in one shot and a skill that knocks down your target aren't the same skill and can't receive the same treatment.
L2p etc there's CC on each side, it evens out a lot in t4.

[Tklees]

If fester was nerfed because there was no counterplay, why has eye shot not received the same treatment? Or what, is the counterplay being able to hit RD in the 1/2s it takes for the eye shot animation to hit you?

I mean, i'm all for a fester nerf, it was a dumb skill, but it would be nice if things were consistent.

I hate to be the one to break it to you that a skill that kills in one shot and a skill that knocks down your target aren't the same skill and can't receive the same treatment.
L2p etc there's CC on each side, it evens out a lot in t4.

Destro gets two 65ft KDs in t4? I had no idea....