Grace WP - post 35 patch

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freshour
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Grace WP - post 35 patch

Post#1 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:38 pm

Hi guys! So I have been playing the grace warrior priest for quite a while now. Pretty geared out. Full duelist with crit helm. A few purple str talis and some wounds and toughness mixed in. Pretty survivable unless focused like anyone else. I was performing pretty well at 32 and then 35 hit. My gear got better, my damage got better, but my heals are nearly cut in half. I'm not sure if sigmars radiance is being suppressed, if our crit/damage tactic is affecting it, but I am not really really not healing even close to what I did at 32. I even got so frustrated I spec'd healing to see if salvation was fine.. It was lol. Anyway I know Grace WP has a pretty shallow following but I wasn't sure if anyone has any ideas on it as I'm trying to test what actually changed. Seeing how 80-90% of my heals are life tap. It has to be something in regards to that. My overall damage went way up, but zee heals just aren't there. Still rocking the class, but if anyone has an idea as to what went on id love the info. I know Az is pretty busy right now so maybe we can figure this is out for him and save him some time. I'd be willing to record and upload it if I can figure it out

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Re: Grace WP - post 35 patch

Post#2 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:41 pm

Tbh if anything your life taps should be even better, given that overall damage has gone up but defenses have stayed the same.
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Re: Grace WP - post 35 patch

Post#3 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:47 pm

Yeah that is exactly what I was thinking too! I tested it in PVE and it's also not healing for what it did at 35 so that eliminated the likely possibility of bad luck with running into a lot of healing suppression. I'll keep trying to figure this out. Wanted to put it out there in case anyone else had ideas or experienced it.

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Re: Grace WP - post 35 patch

Post#4 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:53 pm

The real problem is our healing directly correlates with damage. Everyone got a big boost in damage. My heals maybe got a 5-10% increase as it is a % of my damage. I have no tried max str spec and nearly max armor. Both do okay but it's so tricky to play. Moving from place to place in combat constantly having to have a dummy to hit as you back up to keep heals coming. I wish our Leading the prayer tactic caused it's % chance to be increase to 35% chance like DoK or maybe a variation of it. If I put on leading the prayer I get healed so much more but my group loses out on a ton of heals. As far as I can tell the class is super close to being balanced. But also any big change could throw it into super OP mode.

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Re: Grace WP - post 35 patch

Post#5 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:55 pm

I meant I have now*** sorry have to use phone because my IP was black listed when I joined and it is taking them forever to switch it :(

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Re: Grace WP - post 35 patch

Post#6 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:57 pm

Honestly, I think we're even less viable now than we were in 32.

Right now, you have to have a guard, no exceptions. With the damage increase, we're excessively fragile, far too much so to be on the front line. The slight increase to our lifetaps doesn't compensate for the ease at which we're smashed.

But at least we have Vow of Silence, now.

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Re: Grace WP - post 35 patch

Post#7 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:21 pm

ThePollie wrote:Honestly, I think we're even less viable now than we were in 32.

Right now, you have to have a guard, no exceptions. With the damage increase, we're excessively fragile, far too much so to be on the front line. The slight increase to our lifetaps doesn't compensate for the ease at which we're smashed.

But at least we have Vow of Silence, now.
All I can say, welcome to every melee oriented dps career in the game now. It is such a ranged slugfest that guard is pretty mandatory.

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Re: Grace WP - post 35 patch

Post#8 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:29 pm

dirnsterer wrote:All I can say, welcome to every melee oriented dps career in the game now. It is such a ranged slugfest that guard is pretty mandatory.
Except we don't have the damage to kill anyone, have no utility to really support the team, and are mediocre in healing - you know, our actual role.

We need the guard to survive, but there is no reason to spend a slot to guard us. Any rational team would rather replace us with a back-line healer or a dedicated DPS.

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Re: Grace WP - post 35 patch

Post#9 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:40 pm

You have the capacity to heal... and do damage. While you are mediocre at both every other class has to chose between one or the other(Save DPS AM).
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Re: Grace WP - post 35 patch

Post#10 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:59 pm

Gachimuchi wrote:You have the capacity to heal... and do damage. While you are mediocre at both every other class has to chose between one or the other(Save DPS AM).
Good, then we understand each other.

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