Babel Tower

[bloodi]

Well, again i have been asked to stop and to put it on the forums so here it is.

The topic at hand is the implementation of the russian language channel, personally, i think its a terrible idea, here are some reasons why:

A) Chat channels are finite: This is the key of the issue, if they werent, there wouldnt be an issue at all, specific channels for each language are a completely normal thing. Problem is RoR only has 9 available, that means we have 1 left, nothing more. There will be no chat for any other language as far as i know.

B) Here is where we keep the Russians: Being the only nationality that merits its own chat channel looks bad, real bad, like, we had to create this pen for them to play because we cant let them free with everyone else, i know is not the staff intention, i know it was not the idea behind it but for most people, is how it looks at first glance.

C) Justification: Look, i played games long enough on the internet, i played a lot of dota, i know better than anyone the stigma some nationalities have, be it Brazil, Peru, SEA countries or Russia, this is just fuel to the fire, specially when the staff doesnt have a clear stance on it, here is Aza saying he will kick people out of the other channels for speaking russian http://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/ ... 55#p116055 however here is a moderator Druin stating they wouldnt be doing so http://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/ ... 51#p116151 . That is a big issue, there was already people berating others for speaking Russian, now we have people who think they have a justification for doing so.

D)It wouldnt hurt any of you learning a language that is not **** english.

So thoughts?

[Penril]

How large is the russian population in RoR, exactly? If it is large enough i don't see any problem with giving them their own chat channel.

10 guys speaking Korean, or 20 speaking Spanish don't merit a whole chat channel for themselves.

Most of french/german/spanish speaking players are perfectly fluent in english so i don't see a problem in not giving them their own channel as well.

I guess only devs know these numbers.

[bloodi]

Most of french/german/spanish speaking players are perfectly fluent in english so i don't see a problem in not giving them their own channel as well.

This is as true for Russian people as it is for everyone else.

[Nameless]

cyrillics is the problems. For most ppl is like aliens trying to connect with earth... Addition to that russ are not only nation using cyrillics. Not that matters for anyone so whatever

[Soulcheg]

How large is the russian population in RoR, exactly?

1/3

[Penril]

Most of french/german/spanish speaking players are perfectly fluent in english so i don't see a problem in not giving them their own channel as well.

This is as true for Russian people as it is for everyone else.

I understand this, but as i mentioned, maybe the russian population is larger than the other ones i mentioned. So having their own channel is actually good for them. Keep in mind they are not banned from the other channels, but it would be nice if they used english in those.

It is a little thing called respect: If most of the playerbase speaks the same language, why not use it? I have had long conversations with Thousandsunny and Chaoselza (native spanish speakers) in /ad channel using english, simply out of respect for the rest of the player base. We don't own that channel. However, when we send tells, we use spanish for the most part.

Most bilingual people know english as a second language, so it totally makes sense to use english in the main channel of a online game. If most russians also know english but still refuse to use it, then giving them their own channel so they can use their native language makes complete sense to me.

Anyway, that's what i think.

[Penril]

How large is the russian population in RoR, exactly?

1/3

I know it is fairly large. Not sure about 1/3 though.

Anyway, being so large, i don't see what's the problem with giving them a channel of their own (on top of the other ones they can freely use). Is it insulting or something? I would like to read a reply from a russian player, and see if he feels offended by this (or grateful).

Idk. If they don't want that channel, i'll take it

[Soulcheg]

Most people see /8 as a some farmyard/stall/ghetto.

[Nishka]

Most people see /8 as a some farmyard/stall/ghetto.

Somebody forbids russians to speak on other channels? No. just use english there.