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Razid1987
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Re: A few suggestions. Take 2 god damn time out!

Post#31 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:49 pm

Torquemadra wrote:
Razid1987 wrote:
Torquemadra wrote: Its a low hitting attack, if you are killing someone with pounce spam the problem is them...
I didn't say Pounce would be doing the damage. But being able to keep up with someone, pretty much no matter what, and then only for 30 AP. It just seems very strong.

But with that being said, I don't want changes to be made before T4, for obvious reasons. I'm just saying it, how I see it.

I'm just wondering, if the justification for having Pounce spammable is that you can't catch Shamans and SHs, then what mechanism does Marauders have to catch AMs and SWs? I would point to Terrible Embrance. But even ignoring the fact, that Marauders don't have that, until T4 (Which should be ignored, because T4), Terrible Embrace is the mirror of Fetch, and not Pounce.

So what does Marauders have to catch AMs and SWs, to mirror WLs' Pounce?
As even the OP said roll one and see otherwise it's nothing but hyperbole and bias supposition, no one's going to convince you of anything as you are making all kinds of wild assumptions and it will be far faster for all concerned.
No reason to be rude... Also, I'm... I'm... Order... lol.

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Scrilian
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Re: A few suggestions. Take 2 god damn time out!

Post#32 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:54 pm

Actually I would consider myself rolling WL if Pounce was turned into Thunderous Blow. Not advocating for it or anything ;)
But, that again, sadly WL would still remain an elf >_<
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Re: A few suggestions. Take 2 god damn time out!

Post#33 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:56 pm

Scrilian wrote:They might have harder time catching up, but when they do:
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and with couple of autos here and there you are pretty much dead ;)
Oversimplifying a bit, but you get the point. Savagery would take few more hits, but much harder to heal through.
What is that Guillotine doing there :)

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Razid1987
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Re: A few suggestions. Take 2 god damn time out!

Post#34 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:57 pm

Torquemadra wrote:
Razid1987 wrote:
No reason to be rude... Also, I'm... I'm... Order... lol.
I genuinely didnt mean to be, its way past my bed time and apologise if it sounded dbaggy
No problem. Apology accepted :)

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Scrilian
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Re: A few suggestions. Take 2 god damn time out!

Post#35 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:00 pm

rmpl wrote:
Scrilian wrote:They might have harder time catching up, but when they do:
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and with couple of autos here and there you are pretty much dead ;)
Oversimplifying a bit, but you get the point. Savagery would take few more hits, but much harder to heal through.
What is that Guillotine doing there :)
Haven't you heard? With new Dev. set -armour proc Brut is the new Sav :D
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Re: A few suggestions. Take 2 god damn time out!

Post#36 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:01 pm

Scrilian wrote:
rmpl wrote:
Scrilian wrote:They might have harder time catching up, but when they do:
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and with couple of autos here and there you are pretty much dead ;)
Oversimplifying a bit, but you get the point. Savagery would take few more hits, but much harder to heal through.
What is that Guillotine doing there :)
Haven't you heard? With new Dev. set -armour proc Brut is the new Sav :D
Most maras just run 4 dev + 2% crit helmet with good ol' savagery.

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Scrilian
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Re: A few suggestions. Take 2 god damn time out!

Post#37 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:03 pm

rmpl wrote: Most maras just run 4 dev + 2% crit helmet with good ol' savagery.
That's soooo 2015. :mrgreen:
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lokenoth
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Re: A few suggestions. Take 2 god damn time out!

Post#38 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:17 pm

With the white lion pounce and just my opening post in general, I will re-iterate this, I'm not saying that my suggestion IS the way to fix it, but a way it could possibly be changed. Especially as it does seem to be a frequent topic of interest.

One thing I think we all need to remember is addressing something in a vacuum and addressing it in play. So whilst pounce in itself is unimpressive within a vacuum and should be considered the opening of a series of attacks which is a unique skill, as a DESTRO player I see it seldom used that way in play! Still I shall hold off any further thoughts on that point until I've had a play with one later. However should it persist into T4 it is something that I feel definitely needs a look at, or maybe let Mara's Mutate wings and subject Order to the same "Fun"

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Re: A few suggestions. Take 2 god damn time out!

Post#39 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:46 pm

rmpl wrote: What is that Guillotine doing there :)
That guy has proven again and again that he hasn't played a single destro class
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Reesh
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Re: A few suggestions. Take 2 god damn time out!

Post#40 » Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:50 pm

lokenoth wrote:With the white lion pounce and just my opening post in general, I will re-iterate this, I'm not saying that my suggestion IS the way to fix it, but a way it could possibly be changed. Especially as it does seem to be a frequent topic of interest.

One thing I think we all need to remember is addressing something in a vacuum and addressing it in play. So whilst pounce in itself is unimpressive within a vacuum and should be considered the opening of a series of attacks which is a unique skill, as a DESTRO player I see it seldom used that way in play! Still I shall hold off any further thoughts on that point until I've had a play with one later. However should it persist into T4 it is something that I feel definitely needs a look at, or maybe let Mara's Mutate wings and subject Order to the same "Fun"
TBH, I'd give Thunderous Blow to WL (as it's in the same place on mastery tree), and give the Pounce to Maras anyday. Oh that would be glorious, maras jumping constantly out of guard range and rest of their melee train. It would be just lovely to melt them down. On the plus side WLs getting now the wounds debuff, amazing.
So if you want maras to fly, swap those skills around and we'll see how fun it is to either side indeed.
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