Dear DPS Healers.. from Us

[Nishka]

Do people still refer to damage/healing done in scenarios as a means of gauging one's efforts in a game? XD

People who think that numbers matter nothing, should have been attending to their math lessons, instead of playing WAR

[Luth]

Sc statistics don't matter. Only youtube videos do.

[Feidam]

Do people still refer to damage/healing done in scenarios as a means of gauging one's efforts in a game? XD

People who think that numbers matter nothing, should have been attending to their math lessons, instead of playing WAR

People fall to the scoreboard because of their epeen and a reason to blame others. Often times those same players ignore the SC objectives. What amazes me is that instead of going into RvR and having their death match fight they flood the SC to do it. Scoreboard is not the end all be able of what happened in a scenario. Numbers can be padded and numbers can most definitely lie.

The problem with WAR is a lot of the players have been conditioned to think a long the lines of a select few "pure" classes do it broken op class mechanics and spotty itemization. Hopefully this will change as these devs fix Mythic's oversights.

[mursie]

People fall to the scoreboard because of their epeen and a reason to blame others. Often times those same players ignore the SC objectives..

Just my 2 cents here - I find that people who complain about scoreboards (or say they are irrelevant), tend to be at the bottom of those scoreboards.

If score didn't matter, they wouldn't keep score.

Alot of other cliches could also be used here.

I wouldn't base an opinion of one's ability on the outcome of one scoreboard. If every scoreboard they are at the bottom, then i think there may be more to the story.

[Toldavf]

If you're going to use a score board its better to look at death blows than damage imo

[TooGraphic]

If you're going to use a score board its better to look at death blows than damage imo

It's all really quite relative. Death blows just reflect the last hit. I've discussed this with others before and I honestly wish there were no scoreboards. Metrics are easy to look at in determining value but at the same time alters play style for those who seek to maximize those metrics. Buffs, debuffs, absorbs, taunts, etc are not represented and even worse it leads to people playing in ways that do not benefit the team. I thought of bringing this up earlier in this post but I try to refrain from serious discussion since I don't feel like defending myself against a barrage of logical fallacies and "trolls".

Hybrid classes(DPS healer seems like a poor classification) excel at being able to apply some pressure while relieving some as well. The main issue with most hybrid healers is they don't effectively use defensive targeting. It is the best class for people who wish to, in essence, solo a scenario. They are free to do damage while also being able to heal themselves. While not a true detriment to their team if done well it is still a massive waste of potential. One AM spamming lifetaps on an enemy who is engaged with a team mate they are healing will tip the scales in that team members favor massively.

Back to the scenario stat point, I think that encourages this selfish type of play. If you only worry about healing yourself your job as a "healer" becomes much easier. The player will be able to sustain in combat longer which means higher damage and healing metrics. At the end of the scenario I am sure most of these "selfish" hybrid healers think they are good because of their numbers but lack the ability to understand they really did not offer much help in their teams victory or directly contributed to their teams defeat.

But hey, we are all just here to have fun.

[Feidam]

Until the scoreboards can show the whole story they are not accurate. Too many people look at damage and healing alone to determine if someone pulled his weight in the match. Which is totally not the case. There are way more variables to what potentially happened in that scenario. Some of which are not even listed on the board. So yeah I will continue say they shouldn't be the end all be all of any one particular persons contribution.

I can go into a scenario spam an aoe get top damage and accomplished nothing for the match.

[betozg]

People fall to the scoreboard because of their epeen and a reason to blame others. Often times those same players ignore the SC objectives..

Just my 2 cents here - I find that people who complain about scoreboards (or say they are irrelevant), tend to be at the bottom of those scoreboards.

If score didn't matter, they wouldn't keep score.

Alot of other cliches could also be used here.

I wouldn't base an opinion of one's ability on the outcome of one scoreboard. If every scoreboard they are at the bottom, then i think there may be more to the story.

Well, I don't use my scoreborad results to complain or attack other people, I use my score to defend myself from people saying "we lose because you are a Dps/healer" and this people is usually at the bottom... and of course they always have excuses, like "yes, im at the bottom because of you, If i had heals I would be top damage"... yea, right... We ALL can do it better with a personal healer and guard, no matter what class you are, but we can't have that all the time... So learn to play without it!

I could show these people dozens of SS of my scoreboard results and they would still complaining and saying "you suck" and this is actually very inconsistent, since they usually say "Scoreboeard means nothing" and at the same time the only thing they care about is to get top damage in the scoreboard, when that doesn't happen, they rage and blame others

[Arbich]

I can go into a scenario spam an aoe get top damage and accomplished nothing for the match.

Depends. If your force the enemy healers to use groupheal instead focus heal at one target, you can accomplish something.

We ALL can do it better with a personal healer and guard, no matter what class you are, but we can't have that all the time... So learn to play without it!

Right, so the look at your scoreboard only makes sense, if there were enough healer in sc. Otherwise you can´t compare, because the other people don´t had their personal healer, while you had one (yourself^^).

[mursie]

Well, I don't use my scoreborad results to complain or attack other people, I use my score to defend myself from people saying "we lose because you are a Dps/healer" and this people is usually at the bottom... and of course they always have excuses, like "yes, im at the bottom because of you, If i had heals I would be top damage"... yea, right... We ALL can do it better with a personal healer and guard, no matter what class you are, but we can't have that all the time... So learn to play without it!

I could show these people dozens of SS of my scoreboard results and they would still complaining and saying "you suck" and this is actually very inconsistent, since they usually say "Scoreboeard means nothing" and at the same time the only thing they care about is to get top damage in the scoreboard, when that doesn't happen, they rage and blame others

Playing as a dps healer has to be rough. I don't envy your situation. Unlike the other archetypes (even a dps tank wouldn't incur as much wrath)... the healer archetype that is instead dps'ing creates alot of angst because the other pure archetype designations aren't performing at the level they otherwise could if your slot was filled with an actual healer. Now, unfair to you, had your spot just been filled by another pure archetype, the sc outcome would have been the same and no one would have complained.

Again - i don't envy the position of a dps healer. The ones who probably do it best, do it in a coordinated group where they are already being supported. No one really complains at that point...because a coordinated group has chosen to sub one of its dps roles with the dps/healer. It is the solo que'd dps/healer that attracts all of the scorn.

Dark Days!