Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

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Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#21 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:07 am

Simmox wrote:theres nothing wrong with the current system
when you hit the Q button ,your signing the contract to play the scenario

so what if you lose or are over powered by a superior team?
nothing happens to you,its not like you wake up with leprosy or something the next day

luck of the draw im afraid
you can see who the player teams are before you accept the join option,so you do have a chance to decline the join.
however,id prefer you didnt get to see the enemy teams player names prior to commiting
as this can lead to the premades being boycotted by the discerning Q'er and declining the Join.
I would consider scenarios in their current state to be casual, if someone gets into an SC and doesn't want to play against what they think may be enormous odds they should be able to leave.

Until there is some kind of division made between competitive scenarios and casual scenarios you are going to have bad side effects like the OP has. Whether that is a total MMR system introduction, or just a separate 6v6 only que, or having certain SC's labeled as causal with no penalty for leaving or an endless solo que only SC etc... There are a lot of ways I think you could go about it.

There should definitely be like a 10-15 minute penalty for leaving an SC tho, a lot of people myself included are abusing the insta log out reque and drop the sc you where in to find greener pastures.
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Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#22 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:14 am

Arslan wrote:Alt+Tab, right click WAR on the bottom of the screen, select close Program. Then restart the launcher and log your toon. It is so simple.
You can just press escape then exit and it will boot you out of war instantly while in scenario.

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Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#23 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:01 am

Ninepaces wrote:I don't see why premades should only be allowed to be play against premades when 48-man bombing groups are allowed to farm solo puggers in orvr and not forced to fight only against other organized 48-man groups.
Wait, what just happened in there? 48? Where did you get that number?

So in that post you deliberately said that you enjoy killing pugs in scs as a 6 man, owning them into the ground without much of an effort (because you just hate the idea of constantly playing vs other premade), but, well, doesn't want to go out into RvR instead with few of your buddies.
Just a hint, all it is required is to form up with few other 6 mans to challenge anything on the RvR field.

And those organised RvR groups enjoys fights the most, not to farm regular pug people.
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Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#24 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:28 am

Azarael wrote:I consider this unsportsmanlike behaviour, but the PUGs need to stop feeding them when they're doing this.
Pretty much what I do, I've stopped playing Scenarios all together now. Ideally it would be preferable to create a system that allows both pre-made Scenarios and public scenarios as separate entities, should reduce the case of premades ganking pubs, and still allow premades to organise and go into scenario battles.
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Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#25 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:29 am

Ninepaces wrote:I don't see why premades should only be allowed to be play against premades when 48-man bombing groups are allowed to farm solo puggers in orvr and not forced to fight only against other organized 48-man groups.
There's a 48man bombing wb? Please show me :o

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Post#26 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:32 am

Scottx125 wrote:
Azarael wrote:I consider this unsportsmanlike behaviour, but the PUGs need to stop feeding them when they're doing this.
Pretty much what I do, I've stopped playing Scenarios all together now. Ideally it would be preferable to create a system that allows both pre-made Scenarios and public scenarios as separate entities, should reduce the case of premades ganking pubs, and still allow premades to organise and go into scenario battles.
That would be sure best. A lot players want to que solo into SC, but most of the time they'll get stomped by a single premade at best, so they often stop. It's discouraging.

Pug vs Pug scs are really fun!
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Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#27 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:36 am

I agree with op. Pug vs premade is boring for both sides. In pug you get curbstomped and have to sit in wc for 10 min, in premade you get no challenge and camp wc for 10 min. Is there no way that "premades only vs premades" system could be implemented?
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Post#28 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:39 am

Azarael wrote:I consider this unsportsmanlike behaviour, but the PUGs need to stop feeding them when they're doing this.

Quoted for emphasis.

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Re: Scenarios- pre mades being douchebags

Post#29 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:39 am

Nishka wrote:I agree with op. Pug vs premade is boring for both sides. In pug you get curbstomped and have to sit in wc for 10 min, in premade you get no challenge and camp wc for 10 min. Is there no way that "premades only vs premades" system could be implemented?
Issues I see with Pre vs Pre are the queue times, and then whats stopping 6 people solo queuing at the same time to get into the same SC?

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Post#30 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:56 am

Lileldys wrote:
Nishka wrote:I agree with op. Pug vs premade is boring for both sides. In pug you get curbstomped and have to sit in wc for 10 min, in premade you get no challenge and camp wc for 10 min. Is there no way that "premades only vs premades" system could be implemented?
Issues I see with Pre vs Pre are the queue times, and then whats stopping 6 people solo queuing at the same time to get into the same SC?
I don't see those issues because there isn't scs currently without a premade in it, so it would be even quicker then pugs queuing.
Then if those people would solo que to get into same SC just to abuse the system and have ez mode, ruining all the fun for others, then in calm words I'd call them cowards without any further swearing.

Any normal premades would happily que for premade vs premade scs, as it's more fun to do.
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