Questions regarding Leading Shots and Dity Tricks

[taccr]

It's a curse. Can be group cleansed. Same on RoR.

[SilverWF]

It's a curse. Can be group cleansed. Same on RoR.

Pretty sure, all tactic debuffs has Damaging or Debuff/Buff types.
If it's not - LOL then...

[Nanji]

Tbh being cleansable would make CS stronger.

[taccr]

[SilverWF]

And Curses are cleansable by WP. Nice.

[Tesq]

Ye another reason to not use it

As :

-require to be slot
-need to be apply St most of time
-require crit
-don't stack with challenge in anyway

-and then can also be cleanse

Wonderfull that i have put so much effort in something that order can do better cuz they have higher block rate for protect challenge stacks and also rampages slayers that ignore my defenses wirh lead to remove 1 core function from an archtype .


With out start a world war, what emerged until now it's that :

-Destru should use cs, because we need to cover for a durable challenge stack lack
-But cs need so much effort and so many sacrefices + chance to get it cleanse that make it so not worth.

[taccr]

CS being cleansable doesn't really make it weaker, it's situational.
While under low pressure WPs can easily cleanse it and high pressure it will cover important debuffs and your snare.

The only problem I see with CS is it's viability in T4 when people don't have low initiative anymore.
You have to go 2h for OB to reliably apply it since bugged lotd weapons are history.

[Tesq]

Ye tri spec was a thing of the past now with out lotd weapons

@healers can also use m2 cleanse you know :/

[SilverWF]

The only diff between CS and Chaleng is that CS actually reduces damage on you
But this is not an option, cos noone in more or less organized groups will hit hit tanks 1st.
So on my chosen it's pretty obvious: shout on pack DPSers, stagger healers and rdpsers, then turn back to my guard and start snaring all around.

[Penril]

Yeah, i edited my post. Sorry Tesq, i ran my test in 5 minutes before coming to work (i always run tests in game when im not 100% sure of something) and i simply misread the results. CS is cleansable. My most sincere apologies to you.

However, it doesn't have a CD (Cleanse has a 5sec one) so you can reapply it pretty much immediately. It can also cover important curses/hexes from other classes (Word of Pain, Can't Stop the Chop, Soul Killer, etc). Of course it can also cover important Ailments but i am not counting them for this example since WP can't cleanse Ailments.

Also, CS stacks with Ya Missed Me!. Since Slayers love to remove your Challenge, i suggest you try a Crippling Strikes + Ya Missed Me! (WP can't cleanse Black Orc) on one of them to reduce their damage to 60%. Toss a guard on whoever is being focused and watch the Slayer cry.