Buff/Debuff stacking?

[Starx]

Been a while so I forget and maybe things have changed about how things stack over the years. Speaking specifically about stat buffs/debuffs, but also certain % buffs/debuffs such as reduced incoming healing etc.

From what I remember these work sort of as follows...

1.Potions/liniments,
2. Abilities+tactics (blessings, enchantments, hexes and ailments)
3. Morale

These being sort of their own classes that stack with each other but do not stack within themselves? For instance a BG could have an armor buff from a potion, his ability force of fury, and his morale 3 Armor of eternal servitude?

But for instance force of fury will not stack with the zealots HoT armor buff via the tactic? Nor will the BGs toughness buff or debuff stack with the chosen aura. In both cases only the strongest will apply?

Of course the biggest offender of ability stacking being knight chosen auras invalidating a ton of abilities from in party classes since they dont cost a gcd, cant be dispelled, last forever, are AoE, simotaenously a buff and a debuff, and usually are about the same power level as ones that do outside of their outgoing healdebuff one?

Morales same situation? Zealot Eye of sheerian and BG armor of eternal servitude will not stack together? And things like zealot claw and demo strike do not stack together?

Heal debuffs of the same type never stack with each other regardless of source, only outgoing+incoming work and two 50% of each of these would mean a 75% reduction in healing recieved? If the healer and the reciever are both outgoing and incoming debuffed.

That brings up a 4th class/source of buff/debuff being from gear, either procs on weapons or set bonuses.

Does a weapon or armor with an armor debuff proc stack with ability sources of armor debuffs? What about stat buffs, etc.

Anything else im missing? Am I wrong? Or how do these interact?

[nocturnalguest]

You better off read thru patch notes from a mark of like 2 years ago, as your knowledge is incredibly outdated or according to some questions of your entirely missing. Sadly there is no quick accurate answer for your questions as it requires a huge wall of text which i cant afford to post at the moment nor there is some wiki to link you to. Also short answers you may receive here can be completely made up and inaccurate, so beware.

You can study this as well if curious https://war-abilityviewer.dalen.io/, it contains all technical data of each ability, proc, tactic, whatever.

[Starx]

Thanks Ill try to find that patch, about the site what exactly am I looking for in the details of an ability to learn abouy how it interacts with other abilities?

[nebelwerfer]

It has become such a mess, bring back the old system where abilities/tactics/morales are different categories and stack pleassse

[Starx]

Still cant find the patch but I found how it use to work

[MAX (Ability / Potion) ]
+
[MAX (Morale)]
+
[SUM (Tactic)]
+
[SUM (Career Mechanic, Heaven's Blade, Daemonic Armor, Flak Jacket)]

So tactics stacked which made that zealot armor buff tactic hugely OP. Potions actually didnt stack with normal buffs (must have wasted a lot of gold there). But I wonder if weapon/armor stuff counted as "abilities". And why some abilities were classified seperately into career mechanics.

Anyone remember what year the patch came out that changed this? Would help me find it.