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Bias between realms through bug exploitation

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:40 am
by RyanMakara
Now, I'd like to bring up a very controversial issue that's become somewhat of a joking stigma... that being the bias towards Order from the developers themselves. Whether accidental or simply unaddressed, in the past year there have been many cases of Destruction being treated unfairly, not just by regular game balancing, but also the bugs that sneak into the constant updating from our lovely devs. I won't go as far as to address the balancing issues, because most of us remember them well and I don't feel like digging into that past.

However...

At this very moment, a few players are reporting a bug that's been around since June 2015. It's been reported on the bugtracker again; all previous reports were locked and referred to the same bug report made in June about the issue. I won't spoil what it is, and since the devs are already aware (at least I hope), I'm not making this post for the simple awareness of it. All I'd like to indicate, is that with this bug, there is a severe higher surplus of purple items on Order's Auction House, which is truly noticable. Just compare Destruction's Auction House to that of Order, and you will notice a way higher amount of cheap purple talismans and affordable R20+ purple gear. Why? Because Order can get an infinite amount of level 50 purple fragments, since their Decimator armor can be obtained for 'free'.

Now, Order has already been able to make higher grade talismans since the update introducing the crafting and collecting of materials allowed them to make higher stat purple talismans due to their ability to farm R25 mobs for 125+ materials, and with the introduction of salvaging their ease in creating these has increased by a tenfold. Order is able to craft higher grade talismans with much more ease, and has a better economy for purple items that did not require to be salvaged for it in the process, usually making their better geared and equipped than Destruction.

In my opinion, this isn't even about the fact that Order has better gear and talismans to slot them with. It's about the fact that Order is, once again, able to get away with economic exploitation while Destruction's market is still suffering from the gold exploitation bug from 4-5 months ago. There's enough gold in circulation, but it doesn't get spread equally because of only a few market holders having the purple items on Destro's side. On Order, the gold flows much easier due to the high surplus of purple items, all because of one currency exploitation that has been around for just about as long, going unnoticed to be fixed or even be properly addressed.

It simply isn't fair to Destruction to have a much harder time by measures taken by the developers against their exploitation, while most of the blame lies with Order. The T3 medallions got wiped due to Order's crossrealming and keep farming along with them, while a market exploit for their realm is going completely unnoticed by the developers simply because ONE vendor has not been fixed yet. Even if this vendor gets fixed, I'm sure there's a few people who are sitting on top an endless supply of a certain RvR currency, currently obtainable to a near infinite amount. We had the same bug in September 2014, need I remind you. Now I'm not going to plead for a purple talisman/fragment/weapon/armor wipe, although this probably would make things more balanced between the realms; but. There is a HUGE need for a Recruit Medallion wipe, because by the time T3 arrives and this currency becomes convertible to Soldier's Medallions, Some Order will have full Devastator before any Destruction character has had the chance to get the first 5 medals from a keep capture in their long grind to a full set of that gear.

Maybe give Destruction the hope, developers, and show that you're not truly Order biased.

Re: Bias between realms through bug exploitation

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:53 am
by Twyxx
It's been fixed afaik and vendor removed. Unless it's changed.
*in reference to decimator

Re: Bias between realms through bug exploitation

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:58 am
by crazyrebel2
Checed this 40min ago and it still works

Re: Bias between realms through bug exploitation

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:01 am
by magter3001
RyanMakara wrote:
Spoiler:
Now, I'd like to bring up a very controversial issue that's become somewhat of a joking stigma... that being the bias towards Order from the developers themselves. Whether accidental or simply unaddressed, in the past year there have been many cases of Destruction being treated unfairly, not just by regular game balancing, but also the bugs that sneak into the constant updating from our lovely devs. I won't go as far as to address the balancing issues, because most of us remember them well and I don't feel like digging into that past.

However...

At this very moment, a few players are reporting a bug that's been around since June 2015. It's been reported on the bugtracker again; all previous reports were locked and referred to the same bug report made in June about the issue. I won't spoil what it is, and since the devs are already aware (at least I hope), I'm not making this post for the simple awareness of it. All I'd like to indicate, is that with this bug, there is a severe higher surplus of purple items on Order's Auction House, which is truly noticable. Just compare Destruction's Auction House to that of Order, and you will notice a way higher amount of cheap purple talismans and affordable R20+ purple gear. Why? Because Order can get an infinite amount of level 50 purple fragments, since their Decimator armor can be obtained for 'free'.

Now, Order has already been able to make higher grade talismans since the update introducing the crafting and collecting of materials allowed them to make higher stat purple talismans due to their ability to farm R25 mobs for 125+ materials, and with the introduction of salvaging their ease in creating these has increased by a tenfold. Order is able to craft higher grade talismans with much more ease, and has a better economy for purple items that did not require to be salvaged for it in the process, usually making their better geared and equipped than Destruction.

In my opinion, this isn't even about the fact that Order has better gear and talismans to slot them with. It's about the fact that Order is, once again, able to get away with economic exploitation while Destruction's market is still suffering from the gold exploitation bug from 4-5 months ago. There's enough gold in circulation, but it doesn't get spread equally because of only a few market holders having the purple items on Destro's side. On Order, the gold flows much easier due to the high surplus of purple items, all because of one currency exploitation that has been around for just about as long, going unnoticed to be fixed or even be properly addressed.

It simply isn't fair to Destruction to have a much harder time by measures taken by the developers against their exploitation, while most of the blame lies with Order. The T3 medallions got wiped due to Order's crossrealming and keep farming along with them, while a market exploit for their realm is going completely unnoticed by the developers simply because ONE vendor has not been fixed yet. Even if this vendor gets fixed, I'm sure there's a few people who are sitting on top an endless supply of a certain RvR currency, currently obtainable to a near infinite amount. We had the same bug in September 2014, need I remind you. Now I'm not going to plead for a purple talisman/fragment/weapon/armor wipe, although this probably would make things more balanced between the realms; but. There is a HUGE need for a Recruit Medallion wipe, because by the time T3 arrives and this currency becomes convertible to Soldier's Medallions, Some Order will have full Devastator before any Destruction character has had the chance to get the first 5 medals from a keep capture in their long grind to a full set of that gear.

Maybe give Destruction the hope, developers, and show that you're not truly Order biased.

QQ threads only work for Order :lol:

Re: Bias between realms through bug exploitation

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:09 am
by Jaycub
Spoiler:
Gorr Genocide for runescribed in IC NEVAR 4get

Re: Bias between realms through bug exploitation

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:14 am
by thullonse
Jaycub wrote:
Spoiler:
Gorr Genocide for runescribed in IC NEVAR 4get
1 like = 1 saved gorr

Re: Bias between realms through bug exploitation

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:18 am
by RyanMakara
Jaycub wrote:
Spoiler:
Gorr Genocide for runescribed in IC NEVAR 4get
how many people got banned for that, again? :^)

Re: Bias between realms through bug exploitation

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:52 am
by Sulorie
Fun fact, decimator isn't supposed to give purple fragments as it counted as blue item on live.

Re: Bias between realms through bug exploitation

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:03 am
by xyeppp
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We must put a stop to this now - nerf ordor! End destro suffering!

When somebody reported this bug to me a few days ago on destro they just said "T1 Elf" is giving free boxes.
I (being destro) proceeded to check the NPC and saw it was fixed, at which point I haven't even thought of checking the order one. What I do not understand is this - why won't you just PM me this so it could've been fixed the very same day, today, and avoided all this drama of people asking on /ad if it's true that order gets to exploit.

Re: Bias between realms through bug exploitation

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:19 am
by katroulitsa
You suggesting wiping medallions for both fractions? What about ppl who casually play and try hard to get their rewards?
Also, so called elite players run around with the same talis regardless of the fraction they belong. Since the bug is now fixed according to our top witness, I don't see the issue.
PS: there are lvl 25+mobs in elf and dwarf