Return of Reckoning

• - backdate the numbers to the date the patch was released and then compare them to the week before, if possible, to estimate the impact of the patch
  - surrender rates are not accurate because matches that would qualify for a surrender actually end before the losing team is allowed to surrender.
  - the number of matches where the winning team has 100/200/300/400 points more than the losing team
  - which scenarios are more likely to have bigger score gaps, which may indicate that the scoring system for that match is not good (snowballing?)
  - the average RR difference between teams (this is something that I have tried to look into a lot as I think it is a strong driver of what you are observing)
  - the average kills per scenario and compare them to difference in average RR as the previous metric.

Culexus wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2026 8:36 am AoE Choppas

The new matchmaking system has significantly increased the number of guarded players in scenarios. When one side has permanent immunity and the other doesn't, it's going to cause an imbalance.

Order players may complain about the state of the Slayer, but at least it doesn't have an ability that can cause your faction to auto-lose scenarios.

Urmig wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2026 9:30 am

Culexus wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2026 8:36 am AoE Choppas

The new matchmaking system has significantly increased the number of guarded players in scenarios. When one side has permanent immunity and the other doesn't, it's going to cause an imbalance.

Order players may complain about the state of the Slayer, but at least it doesn't have an ability that can cause your faction to auto-lose scenarios.

My experience is that most of the times there are only 2 choppas in the scenario, very often when I play on my choppa I am the only one.
You can check this yourself by checking the social window and seeing how many 40 choppas are online at any time.
It is usually way less than the other melee careers.
In scenarios there has been an increase in careers that either have a lot of armour (melee BO or Melee CH) or fight from the distance (shaman or magus), which means coordinating targets is extremely challenging.
Playing as a melee in these situation is extremely frustrating because ranged careers do not assist you, they do their things and if you want to assist them, you need to chase targets all over the place.
Without guard, that means dying all the time and having really bad damage score, so people will start pestering you.
Then if you have guard, you end up assisting the only other guy that is going melee, a tank.
You can guess how much damage ends being done.

Regarding the aoe choppas, many order classes are able to kite very effectively, even when on low health.
Using aoe is the only real way to keep hitting them when they run away since aoe attacks have greater range than most ST attacks.
Since AOE does little damage to single targets, the numbers are poor.
That is not the fault of AOE choppas, rather there is too much kiting from classes that also dish a ton of damage while running away.
Choppa has no real gap closer when you consider how fragile the class is.

In the end this is not a conversation for this thread, so i ll not add anything else to this.

Urmig wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2026 8:41 am Which tool is this?