Return of Reckoning

Last night change was very good for T2 BOs and SMs. But if/when we get to T4, nothing will have changed (already explained in this post http://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/ ... =30#p65881).

So, what would you do to these two classes? Would you change anything or leave them untouched?

Vote!

I voted for a skill that decreases crit damage taken for their groups. I though about it when someone mentioned that Trivial Blows might not get implemented in the game. If this happens to be true, a skill that decreases crit damage would go a long way in making BOs and SMs wanted in a group.

While i agree that with no tb crits are going to be huge i dont that 1 of those options alone will be enough to bring them into a competitive state as good second grp tanks

cause lets be real on one hand ordo will always run kotbs with this (questionably balanced) 20% grp crit so yeah you "have more reason to run" blorcs but sm? detro dosnt have grp crit mechanics that strong that i can recall so why would you pick them over amazing tanks like ib

granted their are other factors that can affect their pick rate like slayers getting nerfed and white lions getting buffed and stuff

Coryphaus wrote:While i agree that with no tb crits are going to be huge i dont that 1 of those options alone will be enough to bring them into a competitive state as good second grp tanks

Then your vote should be "other" and your post should give a suggestion not listed.

Give them a leap to their defensive target, as it was planned. That leap needs to have a cd though.

out of curiosity pen do you feel that now with kd changes blorcs need that "defensive pounce" idea any more?

Give them 6 secs aoe stagger and they instantly gain a lot of group play value.
Not even joking, 9 secs stagger from chosen and knight was too long, but bo/sm could use that without beeing overpowered then.

And the best thing would be that it would require some skill and thoughts put into to use it correctly.
Not just a mindless aura like buff abillity or aoe spammable debuff.

Edit: It would also give some purpose to engi/magus stagger removal, so you're helping 4 classes at once.

Coryphaus wrote:out of curiosity pen do you feel that now with kd changes blorcs need that "defensive pounce" idea any more?

As i already explained. The KD change is awesome... for T2-T3. Once we get to T4 everything will be the same. The only ones who will benefit are DPS BOs, but that's not what we want, right?

I love the defensive pounce idea but apparently some people were against it (i think even some of the other devs besides Aza; correct me if i'm wrong). So i was just throwing out other possibilities for the devs to see and for the community to discuss.

but what skill would you change to be staggers though

Coryphaus wrote:but what skill would you change to be staggers though

On BOs it is pretty easy: WAAAGH. Any change on BO should be made looking directly at that skill.

On SMs i would look at Phoenix's Wings.

I remember when stagger was 9 secs. I actually proposed removing stagger from Chosen/KotBS and giving it to Sm/BO.

Would have balanced all tanks immediately.