Return of Reckoning

I'll try to keep this relatively simple, but the WL pet's base speed should be increased. As it stands right now if you're not running loner, you're essentially required to run Speed Training tactic, otherwise other players can literally just walk away from the pet.

This would be an issue even if pet pathing was better, but it's exacerbated tremendously due to it. WL's entire 'mechanic' practically relies on this tactic. SH would also greatly improve from better pathing, but at least their pet is ranged (100ft for that matter), so the issue isn't quite as pronounced unless you're a mSH. With the recent changes to WL, I don't see why this should be an issue.

If the concern is which stance you're running (because Threaten has a snare and armor debuff) then perhaps make each stance have a different base speed...i.e...

Threaten: 1x
Hunt:1.25x
Kill:1.5x


The tactic could then bring any stance up to a max of 1.5x speed.

Either way, I don't think it's healthy for a class' entire identity to be mostly reliant on a required tactic.

If anyone has any other suggestions, feel free to chime in.

Yes WLs need buffing.

Yeah I had to press a second button the other night. Unacceptable.

The base speed of the Pet is pathetic. The tactic makes it 'too' fast.

So yes, removing the tactic and increasing the base speed to a 25% - 30% would be the sane decision and one of many steps of fixing the White Lion class mechanic(pet).

However we have been telling the devs this for years, good luck.

P.S. Mandatory tactics for basic class functionality are always bad, most games got rid of them yet RoR keeps these kind of tactics which proves how old this game is and in need of updating. It's the same thing with the IB ''grudge generating tactic' ' Rising Anger' .

Nauht wrote: Fri Jan 23, 2026 6:29 am Yes WLs need buffing.

Yes, the pet most certainly does.

I dont even play WL with pet anymore...

Pull: pet got killed or loose path to target before it even have chance to pull [now check on mara that can even pull while walking and scale pull on str]. Dont even botehr to use if Leonine Frenzy is not up.

KD: only usable when you have Leonine Frenzy otherwise do not bother... then we have aoe kd on demand on Mara... yeah.

DMG: most of your dmg depend on pack / coord otherwise its just fluff. Leonine Frenzy to boost dmg otehrwise... You know. Do not bother.

Base pet speed should be always as if you have speed training sloted and even faster with tactic... As it was years ago.

Everything pet related is broken for few years now. From base speed to everything else [some patches overtune it some just make it unusable].

The problem is the pet needs to be fast to keep it with you mounted or it despawns. Until that is fixed (probably have to code something that when mounted, the pet gets a speed bufff), you won't be able to do anything and its been bugged for years.

And would be great to do the same for the other pet classes.

Pet patch desires:
-remove tactic, upgrade speed to 30%
-summon while moving for SH/Magus

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Illuminati wrote: Fri Jan 23, 2026 2:36 pm Pet patch desires:
-remove tactic, upgrade speed to 30%
-summon while moving for SH/Magus

Instant pets for ranged toons?
Nope. SH pet comparing to WL is stupdily op just hit from afar... Boost dmg every 60 sec for 20 sec?... While same boost on SW last 10 sec and no pet?

Yeah... Nope.

zgolec wrote: Fri Jan 23, 2026 3:14 pm

Illuminati wrote: Fri Jan 23, 2026 2:36 pm Pet patch desires:
-remove tactic, upgrade speed to 30%
-summon while moving for SH/Magus

Instant pets for ranged toons?
Nope. SH pet comparing to WL is stupdily op just hit from afar... Boost dmg every 60 sec for 20 sec?... While same boost on SW last 10 sec and no pet?

Yeah... Nope.

yeah, probably a poor balance suggestion on my part -- a better approach would be to modify something in the MSH tree (which is a role mirror somewhat to WL with leonine frenzy / squig frenzy and the AOE) to have a mobile cast pet.