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Ini debuff stacking rule

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 9:51 pm
by Tesq
what's the currently status of ini debuff stacking rule? does sw 120 debuff stack with the sm one after the last major skill rewamp? if so i think it should be warn about in the wiki pages as i say the max debuff is 120.

Re: Ini debuff stacking rule

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:06 pm
by leftayparxoun
Tesq wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 9:51 pm what's the currently status of ini debuff stacking rule? does sw 120 debuff stack with the sm one after the last major skill rewamp? if so i think it should be warn about in the wiki pages as i say the max debuff is 120.

Buffs/debuffs from abilities don't stack with similar buffs/debuffs from other abilities. Pots, linis and procs (from weapons, gear set bonuses) also count as abilities.

In this case, both "Eye Shot" from SW and "Nature's Blade" from SM are abilities that can debuff INI. If both are applied on the same target, they will not stack and only the highest value debuff will be effective.

Re: Ini debuff stacking rule

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:27 pm
by Tesq
leftayparxoun wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:06 pm
Tesq wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 9:51 pm what's the currently status of ini debuff stacking rule? does sw 120 debuff stack with the sm one after the last major skill rewamp? if so i think it should be warn about in the wiki pages as i say the max debuff is 120.

Buffs/debuffs from abilities don't stack with similar buffs/debuffs from other abilities. Pots, linis and procs (from weapons, gear set bonuses) also count as abilities.

In this case, both "Eye Shot" from SW and "Nature's Blade" from SM are abilities that can debuff INI. If both are applied on the same target, they will not stack and only the highest value debuff will be effective.
im talking about the tactic wrist slash
RoR.builders - Shadow Warrior

previously it was 120 from sm stats steal + 80 from sw tactic for a max of 200, now if they still stack it has been increased to 240....

which mean that min ini stats on destru to not explode under dobule debuff is 335 (from previously 295).

Re: Ini debuff stacking rule

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:36 pm
by leftayparxoun
Tesq wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:27 pm
im talking about the tactic wrist slash
RoR.builders - Shadow Warrior

Tactics affecting abilities also count as "abilities" regarding stacking rules. "Grim Slash" under "Wrist Slash" will not stack with other INI debuffs.

Or at least it should not stack.

Re: Ini debuff stacking rule

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 6:24 am
by Keula
Tesq wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:27 pm previously it was 120 from sm stats steal + 80 from sw tactic for a max of 200, now if they still stack it has been increased to 240....

which mean that min ini stats on destru to not explode under dobule debuff is 335 (from previously 295).
Even if it stacks, which idk if it does, initiative has linear scaling now days so no more instantly blow up at low ini.

Re: Ini debuff stacking rule

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 8:53 am
by Tesq
Keula wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 6:24 am
Tesq wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:27 pm previously it was 120 from sm stats steal + 80 from sw tactic for a max of 200, now if they still stack it has been increased to 240....

which mean that min ini stats on destru to not explode under dobule debuff is 335 (from previously 295).
Even if it stacks, which idk if it does, initiative has linear scaling now days so no more instantly blow up at low ini.
i see any thread that explain how does it work atm?

Re: Ini debuff stacking rule

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 9:19 am
by leftayparxoun
Tesq wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 8:53 am
Keula wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 6:24 am Even if it stacks, which idk if it does, initiative has linear scaling now days so no more instantly blow up at low ini.
i see any thread that explain how does it work atm?

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