Battleground and equity.

[Nameless]

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healing potions are depleting cos you use them, talisman is permanent upgrade on gear. So by allowing free talismans you break the economy of one of the professions at ROR. Stop trowing free talismans let ppl make them and rest buy. Cos nowadays is hardly worth to be talisman maker since there are so many places that you could get free top tier talismans so the prices become laughable low
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[Absinth]

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healing potions are depleting cos you use them, talisman is permanent upgrade on gear. So by allowing free talismans you break the economy of one of the professions at ROR. Stop trowing free talismans let ppl make them and rest buy. Cos nowadays is hardly worth to be talisman maker since there are so many places that you could get free top tier talismans so the prices become laughable low
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The game is rarely throwing free +24 talis out away, the only reliable way of getting free +24's is ch22 and new PvE speedruns of dungeons, but the thing is that those are random and dependant on your luck. CH22 is disabled currently and even if its not then you have one wb doing it once per week on avarage. Speedruns take 2 weeks of time till you can get your 2 random talis. It is just that besides +24 armor and +24 str/ws there is not a lot of money to be made on talis. If you want to see them laughably low then just allow magical salvage to salvage armor frags from armor.

Or! Maybe put a vendor with pvp gem so peoples could buy them by effort , instead of depend on the market who is crazy for a new player...

This is actually a good idea. One counter which will invariably be proffered is, BIS talismans are already available in loot bags dropped from the Chapter Twenty-Two PQ's. But not everyone runs those PQ's and, unfortunately, few run them at all anymore.

Vendoring talismans would help drive down the cost at the market. They don't have to be cheap, but it would also give people something else to do with their crest. Healing potions are already available for purchase with war crest, so...

Difference is that healing potions are not the only thing apothecary main can do, you have linis, armor pots etc. where talimaker has only talismans. Adding this vendor would be the most dumb idea in terms of keeping talimaking alive. The moment you add +24 talis to the npc vendor is the moment where everyone can stop doing talimaking. YOU WILL HAVE TO OVERPRICE THEM IN THE NPC VENDOR if you want to keep the talimaking proffesion as a thing. CH22 and PvE speedruns dont impact the talimaking to such degree because:
1) requires atleast 2 weeks of time (or 4 weeks if you dont do bs speedrun quest) or atleast 24 people
2) talisman drops are random
those two points make it way harder to just spam farm the talis like mad. and yes you could have 10 chars and on all of them do 10 speedruns of GB/BS and buy 2 talis but thats just 20 random talis that will not really make an impact because you will have whole range of different talis.

[Martok]

How many brownie points did you get for this, Absinth?

Adding this vendor would be the most dumb idea in terms of keeping talimaking alive.

Nice pat on the head, perhaps? An 'atta-boy' from the usual suspects? You should have started yelling, that really would have increased your stock.

Oh, wait...

YOU WILL HAVE TO OVERPRICE THEM IN THE NPC VENDOR

So much for server decorum. But hey you're one of the cool kids, so worry not your little head.

[CyunUnderis]

Don't forget you can get blue fragment for making talisman by trading War Token at Craft NPC. And they are really cheap (like a 200 for 20 WT). Pretty sure, if you don't have a talisman maker, you can ask to a guild-mate/friends to craft them for you.

[Omegus]

Healing potions are already available for purchase with war crest, so...

Not the same healing potions that can be crafted, and they share a different cooldown timer so you can use both a crafted healing potion and a war crest healing potion back-to-back. If we were to use that as the basis for this change then I want 2 talisman slots on all gear - one for crafted talismans and one for war crest talismans...

[bw10]

be happy that -75% XP scrolls in pvp are no longer a thing and you are not terrorized by the same 35-39 MSH/Slayer twinked to the gills for 3 weeks straight. i had a slayer like that with 2x gutslime hammer and 30+ TOK jewerly unlocks two or so years ago. was fun to pretty much push enemy side to the spawn alone within minutes of sc start

[Absinth]

How many brownie points did you get for this, Absinth?

Adding this vendor would be the most dumb idea in terms of keeping talimaking alive.

Nice pat on the head, perhaps? An 'atta-boy' from the usual suspects? You should have started yelling, that really would have increased your stock.

Oh, wait...

YOU WILL HAVE TO OVERPRICE THEM IN THE NPC VENDOR

So much for server decorum. But hey you're one of the cool kids, so worry not your little head.

Yes im with big cool kids, im totally not in a random guild with random people and we have no impact on changes. Im the big cool guy that sits behind courtains eating brownies and is like "today we nerf rdps even more, god i hate rdps", I love how you are unable to counter even a single argument and you have to go for Argumentum ad personam because your ego does not allow you to produce a worthy counter argument, if you add a vendor with cheap talis you are making all of the time commitment into salvage, scavenge and talimaking a waste and thats a fact and if you go for +24 talis as the cheap ones you also give "the big scary rich tryhards" (apparently im one of them even tho i mostly have no gold because i waste everything onto dyes, not to say that 80% of my talis are made by myself and 20% is farmed from ch22) access to freely experiment with minmaxing their talis.

That is all for your fake """equity""", if you want real equity then lets delete all crafting proffesions and put cheap vendors for linis and purple armor pots next to the talis. and while we provide equity lets give everyone rr80 at the start and bis gear, soo that everything is fair and impartial.
And please don't respond if your argument is: "ofc you are the kool kid" and other little stings because you are the "true martyr of the inequity getting farmed for days due to not having talis" while not providing any arguments to the discussion, you are talking about decorum but you act more like kid throwing a tantrum.

[insolenz]

i agree, great idea! remove talismans on scs, then remove renown points also, then what, oh yea, remove this stupid tactics. let equity prevail

[Tuxedo013]

This Game Is alt-friendly and all materials and ingredients are tradeable so make a couple of alts for each of the gathering proffesions and use them to farm mats/ingredients then send them to your crafting alts. Then you can craft stuff on your own without relying on the auction house,takes a bit of time investment but it makes game easier!

[mekal]

Just go play an auto battler sounds more your speed