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Stop matching players who sign up for discordant against premades
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 8:16 pm
by Tisaya
This is ridiculous. I sign up for solo sc and get matched against 2 full 80+ premades
I don't care if there's not enough population. I would rather wait for days to a single pop than get matched against a premade.
Re: Stop matching players who sign up for discordant against premades
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 8:46 pm
by Rydiak
If they are queuing individually how are they a premade? Are players a premade simply because they are geared or high RR?
Re: Stop matching players who sign up for discordant against premades
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 10:10 pm
by Everdin
Just because you get stompt does not mean it's a premade, discordant is just random matched together stomp
Re: Stop matching players who sign up for discordant against premades
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 1:44 am
by Tisaya
Everdin wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 10:10 pm
Just because you get stompt does not mean it's a premade, discordant is just random matched together stomp
You get matched against premades if there's low population, even if you sign for discordant only.
Re: Stop matching players who sign up for discordant against premades
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:19 am
by fontin
i thought it was only me, qued disco and matched with premade.
Re: Stop matching players who sign up for discordant against premades
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:26 am
by georgehabadasher
I've also been matched with a premade in a discordant queue. Yes, an actual premade of players who were on discord together. (I know these players and checked their discord).
Re: Stop matching players who sign up for discordant against premades
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:42 am
by shoelessHN
If the pop is low they'll just solo queue and group up when the sc pops. Has been that way with the .pug and now discordant for years.
Re: Stop matching players who sign up for discordant against premades
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:32 am
by Tyrodan
Rydiak wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 8:46 pm
If they are queuing individually how are they a premade? Are players a premade simply because they are geared or high RR?
There is definitely a bug in the matchmaker that throws premades into discordant matches. I know because I was running with a 6-man once, we queued and ended up in a very easy scenario. Afterwards I wanted to check some healing numbers, because I missed it when leaving too fast and was then dumbfounded when I read on the killboards scenario summary page, that it was supposed to be a discordant sc. We should have never ended up in this sc.
I can vouch we didn't do any weird shenanigangs, we we're just a 6-man roaming in orvr and queueing for the odd sc on the side. We are completely fine to face other premades and never has anyone from this team ever mentioned something about dodging queues or anything.
After this incident I checked my scs for several days but it never happened again, so it seems to be somewhat rare. Still I wouldn't dismiss people when they tell you they were facing full 6-man premades, that were clearly acting like they are organized and on comms. Also it doesn't have to be malicious intent by the premade.
Re: Stop matching players who sign up for discordant against premades
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:58 am
by Everdin
Tyrodan wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:32 am
Rydiak wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 8:46 pm
If they are queuing individually how are they a premade? Are players a premade simply because they are geared or high RR?
There is definitely a bug in the matchmaker that pitches premades into discordant matches. I know because I was running with a 6-man once, we queued and ended up in a very easy scenario. Afterwards I wanted to check some healing numbers, because I missed it when leaving too fast and was then dumbfounded when I read on the killboards scenario summary page, that it was supposed to be a discordant sc. We should have never ended up in this sc.
I can vouch we didn't do any weird shenanigangs, we we're just a 6-man roaming in orvr and queueing for the odd sc on the side. We are completely fine to face other premades and never has anyone from this team ever mentioned something about dodging queues or anything.
After this incident I checked my scs for several days but it never happened again, so it seems to be somewhat rare. Still I wouldn't dismiss people when they tell you they were facing full 6-man premades, that were clearly acting like they are organized and on comms. Also it doesn't have to be malicious intent by the premade.
So there may be a rare Bug, never experienced this on my own, in the most cases the pugs on the other side are just the better players. Good players organize themself even in discordant without beeing a premade
Re: Stop matching players who sign up for discordant against premades
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 1:14 pm
by francomes
Funny, wonder what the argument of the "just queue discordant" team would be now...
It seems you can't avoid em even if u try actually queue what you should