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Blackguard / IB - 2h Knockdown

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:33 am
by Blacksuperman
I'm not sure if this belongs here, or better should go to Bugtracker...

IB 2h Knockdown "Cave-In" is a 3s knockdown and a 5s dot on it, therefor it is a Curse,
so you can cleanse the dot, but not the Knockdown. (unless that changed some weeks ago)

now, 2h Knockdown of BG "Malignant Strike" is a new ability, was not on life server...
It doesnt have a dot on it, but it is a Hex.
So when i see a 2h Blackguard run at my ranged dps, i hold my finger on cleanse button, and when he opens with knockdown,
i can insta cleanse it :D .. People in Discord didnt even notice they got knocked down :lol:

Is that intentional or a bug?

Thanks

Re: Blackguard / IB - 2h Knockdown

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:02 am
by Lilim

Re: Blackguard / IB - 2h Knockdown

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:24 am
by Blacksuperman
Lilim wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:02 am Hey,

does one of these boys fits to your statement?

https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/19722
https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/17548
No Sir...

BG knocked my BW teammate, i instantly cleansed the knockdown... So the BW by itself didnt even notice, that he got knocked down.
After that, he had a "visual" immunity for 30s. -> even he was only knocked .5s

and the cleanse wasn't a visual bug either, the BW stood up after .5s and kept kiting..
also cuz i'm Archmage, BW had hot&absorb from my cleanse on him when i cleansed the knockdown :D

I'm sure you noticed, english isn't my first language... hope my explenation is understandable
gonna try and take a Vid next time :lol:

Re: Blackguard / IB - 2h Knockdown

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:09 am
by Lilim
Hey,

Then jump on the bug tracker train and post it there. Pics and Videos are always welcome. Everything that helps to reproduce the issue should be in your ticket.

Re: Blackguard / IB - 2h Knockdown

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:55 pm
by nebelwerfer
Blacksuperman wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:24 am
Lilim wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:02 am Hey,

does one of these boys fits to your statement?

https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/19722
https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/17548
No Sir...

BG knocked my BW teammate, i instantly cleansed the knockdown... So the BW by itself didnt even notice, that he got knocked down.
After that, he had a "visual" immunity for 30s. -> even he was only knocked .5s

and the cleanse wasn't a visual bug either, the BW stood up after .5s and kept kiting..
also cuz i'm Archmage, BW had hot&absorb from my cleanse on him when i cleansed the knockdown :D

I'm sure you noticed, english isn't my first language... hope my explenation is understandable
gonna try and take a Vid next time :lol:
you're not using this tactic are you? RoR.builders - Archmage

since u said ur an archmage

Re: Blackguard / IB - 2h Knockdown

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:15 pm
by squiggastolemybike
Rolled order alts including Warrior Priest around 2 years ago and for as long as I remember I could always cleanse 2h BG knockdown. So it did not occur to me that it was a bug but it did seem weird and unfair.

Re: Blackguard / IB - 2h Knockdown

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:49 pm
by Blacksuperman
squiggastolemybike wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 1:15 pm Rolled order alts including Warrior Priest around 2 years ago and for as long as I remember I could always cleanse 2h BG knockdown. So it did not occure to me that it was a bug but it did seem weird and unfair.
Now someone got my point :D

I think... the guy who "copy" the 2h IB KD to the BG, made a mistake in thoughtsprocess....
He saw -> IB KD is a "curse" -> so i make BG KD a "Hex"

But The "Curse" part of the IB knockdown was the dot... you can cleanse the IB dot and not the KD itself :D

Thats why i am asking... maybe it's intentional, and BG has to deal with covering their knockdown :P

Thanks again guys...

Re: Blackguard / IB - 2h Knockdown

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:47 pm
by Kaeldrick
Imho, it's a bug. Black Guard's KD shouldn't have Hex as attribute but Damaging, just like Chosen's and just like Chosen's KD, it's a 9pt skill from a specific tree.

KD is a hardcontrol, just like Stagger is. Immagine being able to clean stagger, KD, Disarm and at same time keeping the immunity mechanism... Controls would be just useless.

If thread opener doesn't create a ticket, I will.

Re: Blackguard / IB - 2h Knockdown

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:54 pm
by Lilim
Kaeldrick wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:47 pm If thread opener doesn't create a ticket, I will.
please :D

Re: Blackguard / IB - 2h Knockdown

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 2:58 pm
by Kaeldrick
We will make a video with guildmates later today to show the issue.

Thank you Blacksuperman for giving us that info :)