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The Patch of Folly
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:35 am
by Orontes
My sense is engi players far outnumber magi. Some of the strongest and most organized guild(s) are Dwarf focused. It's not uncommon to see organized dwarf groups with many engi working together. There are also many high renown players that are engi. If all that is correct, what is the sense of those players to the March 18 Patch of Idiocy, and the halving of engi/magi bonus damage to Live levels by Powers that don't seem to understand the class at all?
(judging from reactions, the original title was too acerbic. I changed it to something less so)
Re: The Patch of Idiocy
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:37 am
by Stophy22
Yikes
Re: The Patch of Idiocy
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:06 am
by Spellbound
RIP
Re: The Patch of Idiocy
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:15 am
by Martok
“He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee.”
Re: The Patch of Idiocy
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:18 am
by Jinxypie
Way to approach ppl that let you play on their server...
Re: The Patch of Idiocy
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:41 am
by Orontes
The Patch presents the halving of engi and magi bonus damage as a bug fix. This is demonstrably false. The evidence was presented in comments to the patch. Engi and magi had their pet bonus damage increased to 40% in the Oct patch of 2016. It was part of the classes' reworks, therefore intentional. This means either:
1) the patch claim is based on a lie
2) the patch claim is based on ignorance
The title of the thread is the more charitable option.
Even so, I'm interested in the reaction from the well entrenched engi community
Re: The Patch of Idiocy
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:43 am
by Orontes
Martok wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:15 am
“He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee.”
I like Nietzsche too.
Re: The Patch of Idiocy
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:53 am
by havartii
I still see plenty of engi and magi, they are still doing well in all aspects of the game. I think you should relax and try it out, yes it is understood that no one likes to be nerfed, no matter how minor. I believe the devs did the maths for you , and it works out to 4% with 5 stacks.
Re: The Patch of Idiocy
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:57 am
by M0rw47h
No idea, how you can say that good guilds are dwarf focused, is this some kind of joke?
Maybe you just mean that Runepriest is one of the best healers and Slayer is the best mdps in the game, so they are popular? Engineer has nothing with that.
Re: The Patch of Idiocy
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:00 am
by Xameleon
Orontes wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 6:35 am
My sense is engi players far outnumber magi. Some of the strongest and most organized guild(s) are Dwarf focused. It's not uncommon to see organized dwarf groups with many engi working together. There are also many high renown players that are engi. If all that is correct, what is the sense of those players to the March 18 Patch of Idiocy, and the halving of engi/magi bonus damage to Live levels by Powers that don't seem to understand the class at all?
Can you stop crying already?
By the way, i quickly checked your post history. All of your messages regarding balance and balance changes by devs had something in common. It is always "It feels like" "I think" "It should be". I get it, your opinion and criticism are VERY important, (but not exactly needed tho) but what about raw stats? What's your samplesize of data, that makes you "feel like it"? Whats up with the number of engi and magi that makes you "sensing" outnumbering? All i'm trying to say, is that you were never constructive. I haven't seen you bringing up some data or facts to the arguments, only feels and senses. And yeah, a lot of crying