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Initiative and % to be crit
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:10 am
by emiliorv
Is there any spreadsheet or any way to calculate how chance to be crit changes with initiative, for example:
1% chance to be crit = XX initiative
Re: Initiative and % to be crit
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:02 pm
by Ysaran
Your chance to be critted (ctbc) depends from the attacker rank. If i remember well (and I'm not sure I do) the formula for r40 attackers is something like: [3500/(your ini+35)]%.
This means that with 400 in you have a base 8% ctbc. If get ini debuffed by 80, then your ctbc become 9.85%, i.e. 10%. If instead you have 300 ini your ctcb are 10.44% and with a 80 ini debuff you get 13.7% ctcb. But things can get really ugly if go even below: with 210 ini you have a base chance of 14.2%, and the ini debuff takes you to 21.2% ctcb.
Since the formula is a fraction, you can't reach 0% ctcb only with initiative. It doesn't matter how much ini you stack, to reach 0% (or even lower value) you have to use FS
Re: Initiative and % to be crit
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:03 pm
by Rydiak
Use the "bonus" link in my signature.
Re: Initiative and % to be crit
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:09 pm
by emiliorv
Rydiak wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:03 pm
Use the "bonus" link in my signature.
Acording with that sheet:
234 initiative = -15% chance to be crit
-1% chance to be crit= 15.6 initiative
Its ok?
Note: im talking about level 40 characters (dunno if rank matters)
Re: Initiative and % to be crit
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:14 pm
by Ysaran
emiliorv wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:09 pm
Rydiak wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:03 pm
Use the "bonus" link in my signature.
Acording with that sheet:
234 initiative = -15% chance to be crit
-1% chance to be crit= 15.6 initiative
Its ok?
Note: im talking about level 40 characters (dunno if rank matters)
The rectangle labeled "- Crit %" is a value you have to input. It's the reduced chance to be critted you get from gear/FS. Set it to 0
Re: Initiative and % to be crit
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:25 pm
by ZqorpioN
Its possible to get negative ctbc or 0% is the maximum u can get?
Re: Initiative and % to be crit
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:34 pm
by Rydiak
The paperdoll doesn't show negatives, but you can go negative.
Re: Initiative and % to be crit
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:46 pm
by Ysaran
ZqorpioN wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:25 pm
Its possible to get negative ctbc?
You have to, or you'll be dead meat very soon
Re: Initiative and % to be crit
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:55 pm
by detrap
ZqorpioN wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:25 pm
Its possible to get negative ctbc or 0% is the maximum u can get?
I think it works like this...
If your ctbc is 0% and a enemy mdps ctc is 20%,
Your ctbc is actually 20% against this enemy.
So if you can get another 20% reduction tbc then you cannot be crit by that particular enemy.
Re: Initiative and % to be crit
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:16 pm
by emiliorv
Rydiak wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:03 pm
Use the "bonus" link in my signature.
Question => with 200 ini and FS3 (-15%) the sheet shows 2 values: tooltip and actual...tooltip its the showed when using .getstats?? the real value its the "actual crit%" correct?
Initiative -Crit %
200 15
Tooltip Crit % Actual Crit %
2,50% -0,11%