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Engineer abilities now taking damage from damage shields
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:49 am
by jaxamillian
Have noticed in previous 2 patches, first napalm proccing chaos dmg shields, now phosphorous rounds proccing them. Every time I use either ability it now almost kills me. Please tell me this isnt intended.
Re: Engineer abilities now taking damage from damage shields
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:00 am
by Wiede
Jeah, that ability of chosen + tactic got fixed last Patch.
Eat dirt, engies! Welcome to the Destro MDPS world hitting 8+ Kotbs reflect auras in 1 timestamp!
Re: Engineer abilities now taking damage from damage shields
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:27 am
by jaxamillian
Please fix it devs, not terribly enjoyable putting down napalm and taking 400% of my life in dmg. Thanks!
Re: Engineer abilities now taking damage from damage shields
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:12 am
by emiliorv
jaxamillian wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:27 am
Please fix it devs, not terribly enjoyable putting down napalm and taking 400% of my life in dmg. Thanks!
hahaha its fixed NOW....
Re: Engineer abilities now taking damage from damage shields
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:48 pm
by NSKaneda
Devs finally fixed it! Awesome!
(I wonder if excessive aoe from magi in keeps, forts and cities recently might've had something to do with it...)
Re: Engineer abilities now taking damage from damage shields
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:02 pm
by Wiede
jaxamillian wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:27 am
Please fix it devs, not terribly enjoyable putting down napalm and taking 400% of my life in dmg. Thanks!
That's the deal... the exact same way it functions with KOTBS stacking vs. destro melee dps. Have fun!
You thought the melee train of destro wipes to your Rain of Fire ****? No, they killed themselves @ reflect damage.
Re: Engineer abilities now taking damage from damage shields
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:10 pm
by Likeaboss
Wiede wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:02 pm
That's the deal... the exact same way it functions with KOTBS stacking vs. destro melee dps. Have fun!
You thought the melee train of destro wipes to your Rain of Fire ****? No, they killed themselves @ reflect damage.
you know that Kotbs Aura has 2s internal cooldown? so by example WE, who can stack almost 10 hit in 2 seconds you only get 1 Backlash
Just saying... i don't care, if Engi solo don't want to join a party or WB with heal, he should die in pain

Re: Engineer abilities now taking damage from damage shields
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:56 pm
by Panel
Just further evidence of the heavy bias in this game towards melee - knowing how weak engineers are against melee id imagine this ability would be given to the engineer not the melee - but then again this game has always been about fun for melee and misery for the rest. Now we have a situation where there is no incentive to gear up because if you do you just kill yourself faster or tax your healers. Really badly thought out mechanic. In a game so biased to melee you could never convince me this is a needed ability. Sadly the straw that broke the camels back for me and I am out . Don't bother with the usual hackneyed replies because i wont read them - when i'm done i'm done
Re: Engineer abilities now taking damage from damage shields
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:02 pm
by Adelmar
Panel wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:56 pm
Just further evidence of the heavy bias in this game towards melee - knowing how weak engineers are against melee id imagine this ability would be given to the engineer not the melee - but then again this game has always been about fun for melee and misery for the rest. Now we have a situation where there is no incentive to gear up because if you do you just kill yourself faster or tax your healers. Really badly thought out mechanic. In a game so biased to melee you could never convince me this is a needed ability. Sadly the straw that broke the camels back for me and I am out . Don't bother with the usual hackneyed replies because i wont read them - when i'm done i'm done
What a simple and uneducated way to look at this game. Oops, sorry for the hackneyed reply.
Re: Engineer abilities now taking damage from damage shields
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:12 pm
by Foofmonger
Panel wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:56 pm
Just further evidence of the heavy bias in this game towards melee - knowing how weak engineers are against melee id imagine this ability would be given to the engineer not the melee - but then again this game has always been about fun for melee and misery for the rest. Now we have a situation where there is no incentive to gear up because if you do you just kill yourself faster or tax your healers. Really badly thought out mechanic. In a game so biased to melee you could never convince me this is a needed ability. Sadly the straw that broke the camels back for me and I am out . Don't bother with the usual hackneyed replies because i wont read them - when i'm done i'm done
This is very wrong.
1. This isn't about melee, this is about TANKs, and something Magus and destro has had to deal with this whole time. You had a bug that was for your benefit, because one of the Chosens tactics DID NOT WORK. The bug got fixed, and now you are whining like a little child who can't adapt because you can't abuse a bug anymore. Pathetic.
2. RDPS is very very good in this game, and if you can't realize that you are a fool. What do you think melee does in keep sieges and forts?
3. You don't kill yourself faster for getting better gear. You don't know how the damage reflect works which is painfully obvious. It doesn't scale with the damage you do, it's a flat rate based on the "Bane Shield" ability. Why don't you go look at the career builder or even just educate yourself in the slightest?
4. If "a bug fix" and "you can't be an exploiter" is the reason you are "out", then get the hell out. Nobody will cry over it or miss you, or your ridiculous whines.
5. You could also learn to play and stop spamming AoE blindly with 0 consequence and actually think about when it is a good time to use different abilities, instead of your EZmode spam fest. Sorry its "too hawwwddd" to figure out how to play the game and actually make tactical decisions instead of spamming your AoE nades all day long.