Return of Reckoning

That ability is class defining. It was a burst we needed to finish off healers. It's garbage now.

All WLs have is front load damage and some gap closer. That's it. It was fine for a long time and now you nerf it? Come on...

That was really unnecessary...

/rant off

balvor877 wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:40 pm That ability is class defining. It was a burst we needed to finish off healers. It's garbage now.

All WLs have is front load damage and some gap closer. That's it. It was fine for a long time and now you nerf it? Come on...

That was really unnecessary...

/rant off

Afaik the recent patch had a buff.

hmm, it says:

White Lion:
- Coordinated Strike now use a stat contribution scale of 1.

I think 1 was the old value. They reduced it to 0.75 if I remember correctly.

It feels weaker now. Does anybody have some old and new numbers?

Oh god, just search the old patch before to post. Prior the last patches the contribution of the strength was 1.5, then they lowered it to 0.75 and then today they heightened it to 1.
So if you now feel that CS is weaker is definitely a bias, because now is stronger.

Ysaran wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:11 pm Oh god, just search the old patch before to post. Prior the last patches the contribution of the strength was 1.5, then they lowered it to 0.75 and then today they heightened it to 1.
So if you now feel that CS is weaker is definitely a bias, because now is stronger.

well, that explains it. 1.5 to 0.75 and now 1.0.

So they nerfed it from 1.5 to 1.0 right now. How is that stronger in any way?

CS hits like a wet noodle now. I hope you are happy now. What's the next love patch for destro? Im curious to see.

You should probably get that stick up your ass looked at, for thinking that WL didn't need some sort of nerf.
Sure, they didn't have to nerf CS, since their mobility and CC along with the burst is what defines the class, but it was still justified. It's been one of the strongest classes for a long time in every type of group(or solo) apart from WB.

zupaH wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:08 pm You should probably get that stick up your ass looked at, for thinking that WL didn't need some sort of nerf.
Sure, they didn't have to nerf CS, since their mobility and CC along with the burst is what defines the class, but it was still justified. It's been one of the strongest classes for a long time in every type of group(or solo) apart from WB.

I think the silliest part is that to ‘compensate’ they buffed the DoTs.

Manatikik wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:16 am

zupaH wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:08 pm You should probably get that stick up your ass looked at, for thinking that WL didn't need some sort of nerf.
Sure, they didn't have to nerf CS, since their mobility and CC along with the burst is what defines the class, but it was still justified. It's been one of the strongest classes for a long time in every type of group(or solo) apart from WB.

I think the silliest part is that to ‘compensate’ they buffed the DoTs.

It wasn't really to compensate, just that the dots were underperforming due to how they took weapon dps into consideration, which was implemented differently than most other dots for some reason unknown. Sometimes when you dig into a class you find discrepancies, and it made sense to clean that up as well.

Manatikik wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:16 am
I think the silliest part is that to ‘compensate’ they buffed the DoTs.

Nerf the poorly designed all or nothing ST kill someone in 3 seconds or run-away frontload damage and improve their DoTs for some better sustained damage

Makes sense to me

TenTonHammer wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:15 am

Manatikik wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:16 am
I think the silliest part is that to ‘compensate’ they buffed the DoTs.

Nerf the poorly designed all or nothing ST kill someone in 3 seconds or run-away frontload damage and improve their DoTs for some better sustained damage

Makes sense to me

Except the class isn't based around DoT's and would require an entire rework to make it so. It is, however, based around a 10s Cd Front-loaded burst rotation that's biggest weakness is that a majority of its damage goes away once you kill its Pet. The pet damage needed to be scaled back but besides that WL is powerful but not OP; people just don't want to have to be proactive in their gameplay to combat enemies' strengths.