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bloodlord set DOK
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:11 am
by Unstoppable1776
The bloodlord set is not good for Dok. please give the WE 4 piece onslaught bonus to Dok 4 piece bloodlord bonus. Bloodlord is more of a final set so it should be better or at least equal to an onslaught set.
Re: bloodlord set DOK
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:44 am
by Ormix
WHy do you think it is bad tho? Seems pretty god damn good with armour debuff.
Re: bloodlord set DOK
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:59 am
by Hargrim
If you want Onslaught run Chapter 22 and wear Onslaught. As easy as that.
Re: bloodlord set DOK
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:07 am
by Unstoppable1776
Ormix wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:44 am
WHy do you think it is bad tho? Seems pretty god damn good with armour debuff.
Majority of this game is a team game
BG, BO have armor debuffs..doks proc wont stack
Toughness debuff wont stack with dok ability
and why run a 5% chance to increase crit by 6% when i can run a constant 5%?
the onslaught from a WE set, actually is a good proc. 10% chance to increase crit by 9 percent and crit dmg by 12. To me that is an end game set.
I cannot get this bonus since dok onslaught is a heal set. Doks only get dps sets every third time. Since there has to be a heal set, a shield spec, and then a dps spec. So i'm a bit disappointed with the blood set. I honestly can't justify running any blood piece.
Are the weapons any good?
Re: bloodlord set DOK
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:16 am
by peterthepan3
The weapons give you +5% damage bonus, so they're BiS for DPS DoK (I would pick this MH, and a proc weapon for OH).
Re: bloodlord set DOK
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:25 am
by dalen
Ormix wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:44 am
WHy do you think it is bad tho? Seems pretty god damn good with armour debuff.
Basically, 5pc Oppressor + 2pc Sentinel (with sentinel ring) +3pc Beastlord + 2pc Genesis will give you better stats than 7pc Bloodlord + 4pc Genesis. 7pc Bloodlord can't really be combined with any Sentinel or Beastlord. See the full comparison here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
The same armor debuff is also available on some sentinel weapons.
But a simpler fix would be to swap 4pc & 5pc bonuses and make it into flat +5% crit. So you would get:
2 pieces +66,0 Weapon Skill
3 pieces +73 Wounds
4 pieces +87 Strength
5 pieces +5% Melee Crit
Instead of
2 pieces +66,0 Weapon Skill
3 pieces +73 Wounds
4 pieces Boost II – On Hit: 5% chance to increase critical hit rate by 6% for 9 seconds.
5 pieces +87 Strength
This would make it have the same amount of base melee crit chance as the Oppressor set, but with slightly higher stats otherwise.
Adding a (regular) talisman slot to the Bloodlord Cloak would also help make the set more competitive vs Oppressor+Beastlord+Sentinel combos.
Anyway, that's my 2c on it.
Re: bloodlord set DOK
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:26 am
by Unstoppable1776
Server just crashed, is it safe to assume its to update the dok bloodlord set?
Re: bloodlord set DOK
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:30 am
by Unstoppable1776
dalen wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:25 am
Ormix wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:44 am
WHy do you think it is bad tho? Seems pretty god damn good with armour debuff.
Basically, 5pc Oppressor + 2pc Sentinel (with sentinel ring) +3pc Beastlord + 2pc Genesis will give you better stats than 7pc Bloodlord + 4pc Genesis. 7pc Bloodlord can't really be combined with any Sentinel or Beastlord. See the full comparison here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
The same armor debuff is also available on some sentinel weapons.
But a simpler fix would be to swap 4pc & 5pc bonuses and make it into flat +5% crit. So you would get:
2 pieces +66,0 Weapon Skill
3 pieces +73 Wounds
4 pieces +87 Strength
5 pieces +5% Melee Crit
Instead of
2 pieces +66,0 Weapon Skill
3 pieces +73 Wounds
4 pieces Boost II – On Hit: 5% chance to increase critical hit rate by 6% for 9 seconds.
5 pieces +87 Strength
This would make it have the same amount of base melee crit chance as the Oppressor set, but with slightly higher stats otherwise.
Adding a (regular) talisman slot to the Bloodlord Cloak would also help make the set more competitive vs Oppressor+Beastlord+Sentinel combos.
Anyway, that's my 2c on it.
BORING! there are some good set bonuses out there from other dps classes. WAsn't the point of the dok/WP changes to make them more like dps classes? My heals got cut ten fold as DW, sooo...mmm
Re: bloodlord set DOK
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:39 am
by dalen
Unstoppable1776 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:30 am
dalen wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:25 am
Ormix wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:44 am
WHy do you think it is bad tho? Seems pretty god damn good with armour debuff.
Basically, 5pc Oppressor + 2pc Sentinel (with sentinel ring) +3pc Beastlord + 2pc Genesis will give you better stats than 7pc Bloodlord + 4pc Genesis. 7pc Bloodlord can't really be combined with any Sentinel or Beastlord. See the full comparison here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
The same armor debuff is also available on some sentinel weapons.
But a simpler fix would be to swap 4pc & 5pc bonuses and make it into flat +5% crit. So you would get:
2 pieces +66,0 Weapon Skill
3 pieces +73 Wounds
4 pieces +87 Strength
5 pieces +5% Melee Crit
Instead of
2 pieces +66,0 Weapon Skill
3 pieces +73 Wounds
4 pieces Boost II – On Hit: 5% chance to increase critical hit rate by 6% for 9 seconds.
5 pieces +87 Strength
This would make it have the same amount of base melee crit chance as the Oppressor set, but with slightly higher stats otherwise.
Adding a (regular) talisman slot to the Bloodlord Cloak would also help make the set more competitive vs Oppressor+Beastlord+Sentinel combos.
Anyway, that's my 2c on it.
BORING! there are some good set bonuses out there from other dps classes. WAsn't the point of the dok/WP changes to make them more like dps classes? My heals got cut ten fold as DW, sooo...mmm
Yeah, might be boring, but IMHO having 2 procs is enough for one set, I like having some stats I can rely on being there 100% of the time
Hargrim wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:59 am
If you want Onslaught run Chapter 22 and wear Onslaught. As easy as that.
As you know, that is a Salv/Dark Rites set for WP/DoK. Would it be possible to make it available in two variants, main spec & off spec, like what is planned for Sovereign? Could be through a trader where you can swap an onslaught piece for the equivalent off spec onslaught piece.
Re: bloodlord set DOK
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:53 am
by Hargrim
dalen wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:39 am
As you know, that is a Salv/Dark Rites set for WP/DoK. Would it be possible to make it available in two variants, main spec & off spec, like what is planned for Sovereign? Could be through a trader where you can swap an onslaught piece for the equivalent off spec onslaught piece.
As far as I know only Tyrant have a possibility of main spec and off spec from PvE gear.