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				Eternal... AM/Shaman
				Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 9:22 pm
				by Brigorex
				Who are the best to damage an archmage or shaman ?
If I correctly understood archmage is better against range dps classes, but it is more vulnerable against melee dps. Because he is standing caster. Shaman is complete opposite.
P.S. do not need to write that archamage is the best because he does not need to fight against the white lion))
			 
			
					
				Re: Eternal... AM/Shaman
				Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 9:51 pm
				by peterthepan3
				DPS shaman has the burst advantage, while DPS AM has the better sustained/DoT damage.
			 
			
					
				Re: Eternal... AM/Shaman
				Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 10:17 pm
				by Ridduk
				Pass the salt
			 
			
					
				Re: Eternal... AM/Shaman
				Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 12:45 pm
				by Wdova
				From DPS point of view both classes lack behind sorc/bw/magus.
If I have to chose between AM and Shaman I woudl vote for shamman. Better survivability, better looking, more hard to target because he is little piece of green junk 

Shaman hands down. Damn I want to try my old shaman now when I am writing about it. Last of my destro char I havent deleted yet....
"do not need to write that archamage is the best because he does not need to fight against the white lion" doesnt matter now because melee squig herders can also pounce like WLs now!
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Eternal... AM/Shaman
				Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 12:56 pm
				by subfal
				What do you want to do? Sc, 1vX, 6v6, 6vX or XvX?
			 
			
					
				Re: Eternal... AM/Shaman
				Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 12:18 pm
				by Brigorex
				1v1 in this game there is nothing to do except when someone caught you.
6v6 shaman and archmage are basically healers, as the dps they almost do not take.
I am interested in SC's and RvR/ORvR.
			 
			
					
				Re: Eternal... AM/Shaman
				Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 12:23 pm
				by Brigorex
				I think that shaman is better like a healer.
			 
			
					
				Re: Eternal... AM/Shaman
				Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 1:29 pm
				by randomeclipse
				Shamans look roughly 524% better too 

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				Re: Eternal... AM/Shaman
				Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 1:46 pm
				by peterthepan3
				Brigorex wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 12:18 pm
6v6 shaman and archmage are basically healers, as the dps they almost do not take.
 
Not true: DPS AM and Shaman can fill in as DPS for 6v6; they might not be as potent as they were before (can't pick up all the goodies anymore, and less healing when using certain tactics), but the 
damage they can dish out is still 
very, very potent.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Eternal... AM/Shaman
				Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 7:58 pm
				by nat3s
				peterthepan3 wrote: Mon May 13, 2019 9:51 pm
DPS shaman has the burst advantage, while DPS AM has the better sustained/DoT damage.
 
This is a myth, the burst from both classes comes from dot/debuff setup followed by nuke and their respective channeled spells (using the 50% tick/duration reduction tactic). AM have an extra DoT though so higher sustain, but burst is equal.