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[Marauder] Flail and Piercing Bite

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:32 am
by Nabaro
So, the source data:

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From the description - that the second hit of the skill "Flail" requires a mutation. This means that the second strike falls under the conditions of the "Piercing Bite" tactics. But no matter how much I tested, second hit "Flail" didn’t penetrate 50% armor. Is this a bug or what?

PS: eng bad. Found no replay in search.

Re: [Marauder] Flail and Piercing Bite

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:44 am
by DanielWinner
Hello,

Could you please post it on Bugtracker with screenshots of your testing (damage with and without the tactic, for example)?

Thank you.

Re: [Marauder] Flail and Piercing Bite

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:51 am
by Nabaro
DanielWinner wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:44 am Hello,

Could you please post it on Bugtracker with screenshots of your testing (damage with and without the tactic, for example)?

Thank you.
Thanks for the answer, I will do as I come from work.

Re: [Marauder] Flail and Piercing Bite

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:53 am
by kkprfx
Afaik only abilities that specify in the tooltip - Gift of <insert> required - are eligible for Piercing Bite to work.

Re: [Marauder] Flail and Piercing Bite

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:10 am
by Wiede
Well technically the skill itself doesn't require a mutation.

The additional effect does require a mutation.

So piercing bite doesn't affect flail in any way based on it's description.

Edit:
Source: playing PoE for 5 years <.<

Re: [Marauder] Flail and Piercing Bite

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:22 am
by Nabaro
kkprfx wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:53 am Afaik only abilities that specify in the tooltip - Gift of <insert> required - are eligible for Piercing Bite to work.
But if we consider the skill altogether, it requires a mutation for the second hit. Without mutation, there will be no second hit at all. In the description of tactics - there is nothing about "specify in the tooltip", it clearly states about the "require a mutation". If I'm wrong, then need to correct the description.

Re: [Marauder] Flail and Piercing Bite

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:26 am
by stmarrow
The second hit isn't an ability, though.

Re: [Marauder] Flail and Piercing Bite

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:28 am
by Wiede
It clearly states:

"Abilities which require a mutation"

Flail is the questioned ability.
Flail doesn't require a mutation.

Flail doesn't meet the requirement for piercing bite so no effect by this tactic.

Re: [Marauder] Flail and Piercing Bite

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:40 am
by Sulorie
The 2nd hit is more like a proc with the condition of being mutated.
Like Wiede correctly said, the tactic isn't supposed to work with that skill and the tool tip describes it well enough.

Re: [Marauder] Flail and Piercing Bite

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:15 am
by Battlefield
stmarrow wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:26 am The second hit isn't an ability, though.
+1
Piercing byte requires an ability