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[Shaman] What the edge over AM now?
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:39 pm
by dshdf
After last patch AM got
1)doubled healing from 13pt Isha
2)3pt(!!!!) dps path tactic which provides better aoe than sham's 13pt DWiC (simply more dmg and more range, no CD also) and in the same time aoe dot which reduces enemy dmg and crit by 5% (instacast 9 sec duration with 5 sec cd). Sham has 240 toughness, 150 morale singletarget debuff with 2 sec cast at 11 pt.
3)11pt dps path tactic which double DPS of laser, so for now AM has better burst than sham
Moreover
1)am has striketrough tactic
2)am Healdebuff is 10 sec cd, shams 20 (now they both could be aoe cleansed, so that argument worth nothing )
3)isha am still got better ap management than mork sham
4) sham int stealing dot is still isolated in da green path, which is now barely worth investing points
5) new slayers spellbraker significantly lower efficiency of healing sham
am i missing something or?
PS gobbo racial tactics wont kill enemies or heal allies for you sadly
Re: [Shaman] What the edge over AM now?
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:44 pm
by zumos2
People should really stop making whine threads like these. Shaman racial tactics is what gives them a defensive edge over AM. In small scale you can rather easily train an AM down, but you have practically no chance against a shaman. For Warband play you have an unique AoE morale pump and the same two AoE heals as the AM.
Re: [Shaman] What the edge over AM now?
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:59 pm
by Telen
I feel DWiC needs its range increased to 100ft and cd removal added to one of its tactics, ere we go again seems like the best option. Yes you get synergy through cd reducers but AMs tactic doesnt require that.
Re: [Shaman] What the edge over AM now?
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:36 pm
by Dammy095
i dont understand latest AM buffs either
dramastically increasing their burst heal and burst dps for no reason
Re: [Shaman] What the edge over AM now?
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:53 pm
by catholicism198
It looks better.
Re: [Shaman] What the edge over AM now?
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:44 am
by Ormix
As a lvl 67 AM I would say that shamans are better healers and AMs are better dps

Shaman is just amazing healer, with must have buff (tougness), CC, 2 hots, spectacular kite capability and fantastic utility (AP drain, debuffs)!
I think that that shamans are (subjectively) best heals for small RvR kite groups and top teir for everything else. Thats why Im lvling a shaman right now and having a blast while healing!

Re: [Shaman] What the edge over AM now?
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:08 am
by Dammy095
have fun , you probably will miss wild healingc tho
Re: [Shaman] What the edge over AM now?
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:13 pm
by Sulorie
Dammy095 wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:08 am
have fun , you probably will miss wild healingc tho
Not really, too many other good tactics to pick.
Re: [Shaman] What the edge over AM now?
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:33 pm
by defleshed
dshdf wrote: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:39 pm
After last patch AM got
1)doubled healing from 13pt Isha
2)3pt(!!!!) dps path tactic which provides better aoe than sham's 13pt DWiC (simply more dmg and more range, no CD also) and in the same time aoe dot which reduces enemy dmg and crit by 5% (instacast 9 sec duration with 5 sec cd). Sham has 240 toughness, 150 morale singletarget debuff with 2 sec cast at 11 pt.
3)11pt dps path tactic which double DPS of laser, so for now AM has better burst than sham
Moreover
1)am has striketrough tactic
2)am Healdebuff is 10 sec cd, shams 20 (now they both could be aoe cleansed, so that argument worth nothing )
3)isha am still got better ap management than mork sham
4) sham int stealing dot is still isolated in da green path, which is now barely worth investing points
5) new slayers spellbraker significantly lower efficiency of healing sham
am i missing something or?
PS gobbo racial tactics wont kill enemies or heal allies for you sadly
And now the gap widens!
Re: [Shaman] What the edge over AM now?
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:00 pm
by kweedko
dshdf wrote: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:39 pm
After last patch AM got
1)doubled healing from 13pt Isha
2)3pt(!!!!) dps path tactic which provides better aoe than sham's 13pt DWiC (simply more dmg and more range, no CD also) and in the same time aoe dot which reduces enemy dmg and crit by 5% (instacast 9 sec duration with 5 sec cd). Sham has 240 toughness, 150 morale singletarget debuff with 2 sec cast at 11 pt.
3)11pt dps path tactic which double DPS of laser, so for now AM has better burst than sham
Moreover
1)am has striketrough tactic
2)am Healdebuff is 10 sec cd, shams 20 (now they both could be aoe cleansed, so that argument worth nothing )
3)isha am still got better ap management than mork sham
4) sham int stealing dot is still isolated in da green path, which is now barely worth investing points
5) new slayers spellbraker significantly lower efficiency of healing sham
am i missing something or?
PS gobbo racial tactics wont kill enemies or heal allies for you sadly
Years passing by, but nothing changing in this situation.
