Page 1 of 5

[Engi] Strafing Run [Close Date: 28th September]

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:57 am
by Edenwolf
I propose that you swap strafing run and phosphorous shell.

-Phosphorous shell makes more sense in the grenadier tree as it's an aoe dot and does corporeal damage. Can leave as is, it's in a good spot to be a 9 point ability.

-Change strafing run from a pbaoe knockback to a 80ft range aoe that deals aoe damage on a spot you select, applying one hit of high damage with a relatively short cooldown(10 seconds). It wouldn't be as much damage as a full round of ticks from magus firestorm but more of single hit burst type of damage. An added effect can be discussed(of course at the cost of damage).

Re: [Engi] Swap Strafing run and Phosphorous Shell, change effects

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:05 pm
by peterthepan3
Strafing run in its current form is an abomination, so I am open for suggestions on how to improve this.

Go nuts.

Please bear in mind that it is in the Rifleman tree, i.e. make suggestions fit thematically with Rifleman.

Open for discussion. Will be locked in TWO WEEKS from now (28th September).

Re: [Engi] Swap Strafing run and Phosphorous Shell, change effects

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:12 pm
by Glorian
peterthepan3 wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:05 pm Strafing run in its current form is an abomination, so I am open for suggestions on how to improve this.

Go nuts.

Please bear in mind that it is in the Rifleman tree, i.e. make suggestions fit thematically with Rifleman.

Open for discussion. Will be locked in TWO WEEKS from now (28th September).
To clear the Question:
Should the new Strafing run also be something like a Knockback thing or are we completely free to suggest anything?

Re: [Engi] Swap Strafing run and Phosphorous Shell, change effects

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:14 pm
by peterthepan3
Glorian wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:12 pm
peterthepan3 wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:05 pm Strafing run in its current form is an abomination, so I am open for suggestions on how to improve this.

Go nuts.

Please bear in mind that it is in the Rifleman tree, i.e. make suggestions fit thematically with Rifleman.

Open for discussion. Will be locked in TWO WEEKS from now (28th September).
To clear the Question:
Should the new Strafing run also be something like a Knockback thing or are we completely free to suggest anything?
Go crazy. I would go one step further and ask people to think of alternative abilities that could fill the void in 13-pt Rifle (if you really want to keep a hold of SR in some guise...for whatever reason).

Re: [Engi] Strafing Run [Close Date: 28th September]

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:55 pm
by Reesh
You wanted it by going crazy...

Since rifleman is the definition of stationary gameplay - ranged 4s root not breakable on damage, but on root breakers, 30s cd.
That would allow to close up the rotation without target breaking los that easily.

Re: [Engi] Strafing Run [Close Date: 28th September]

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:58 pm
by Sigimund
Make concussion grenade into a ranged snare and make Strafing Run the ranged KB? That way they don't step on each other's toes and other specs get a ranged ST snare.

Re: [Engi] Strafing Run [Close Date: 28th September]

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:06 pm
by zarh
I know, i know, i know Nuclear launch detected ....
Im kidding.

the Engi its should all about CC area, root, snare, so as you like, why not some debut AOE with short timers on it and not hight dmg like it do.. it should be like a support dps... and nothing more (same for the Magus).

Re: [Engi] Strafing Run [Close Date: 28th September]

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:12 pm
by peterthepan3
zarh wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:06 pm I know, i know, i know Nuclear launch detected ....
Im kidding.

the Engi its should all about CC area, root, snare, so as you like, why not some debut AOE with short timers on it and not hight dmg like it do.. it should be like a support dps... and nothing more (same for the Magus).
It's archetype is damage dealer/DPS; it should be able to function as a DPS first and foremost. That is the end of it.

Please do not derail.

Re: [Engi] Strafing Run [Close Date: 28th September]

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:14 pm
by zarh
peterthepan3 wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:12 pm
zarh wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:06 pm I know, i know, i know Nuclear launch detected ....
Im kidding.

the Engi its should all about CC area, root, snare, so as you like, why not some debut AOE with short timers on it and not hight dmg like it do.. it should be like a support dps... and nothing more (same for the Magus).
It's archetype is damage dealer/DPS; it should be able to function as a DPS first and foremost. That is the end of it.

Please do not derail.
so ok Nuclear launch detected ...
so no point to play pure DPS AOE .. its better play CC AOE and DPS ..

Re: [Engi] Strafing Run [Close Date: 28th September]

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:48 pm
by dansari
Specifically with Rifleman: Rifleman is the most stationary tree of the three; its purpose is single target damage. Giving it an aoe ability breaks the theme of the tree and it will simply be skipped for other stuff.