I feel ya man, im not trying to be a **** at all. Quite the opposite.Torquemadra wrote:Yes and no, thats not a concern for you per se but a crap ability is a crap ability, the problem comes when it further accentuates a distance and builds on the already existing over performing part of a class.th3gatekeeper wrote: Torq, are the auras not on the table for a potential rework that could potentially move Chosen/KOBS from "best performing classes" to "good classes"? If so, it stands to reason that we should be balancing in light of where you want the class to head, rather than just "where it is today". What I mean by that is if its in the cards that you will make these auras require more management, maybe less uptime, or less overall impact (such as making them maybe ST debuffs instead of AOE, etc). Then we should be looking at some of these lack luster abilities (like Relentless + MF) in light of a potential aura rework... Otherwise there is no point in even discussing this stuff until that happens first.
Moving it to tier 3 and buffing the damage and not locking to greatweapon isnt going to happen, at all, I thought I was pretty clear on this. My tanks all run dps, BG, BO, SM, IB, all use a 2hander, my knight however uses a shield because the benefit to cost ratio is too great not to and Shield bearers, who mitigate part of the argument against the channel of no AA by not relying on AA isnt going to be placed further out in front.th3gatekeeper wrote:Moving to tier 3, allows you to be justified in buffing this ability to compete with SM/BO. Now you dont need to grayscale, and you dont need to mess with other tactics and what not... Its the "KISS" solution IMO (Keep it Simple, Stupid).
I just dont undersand what build a SNB Knight would run if they were to get this?! If you want Vigilance (which is arguably the best KOBS ability you have) then you are going full Vigilance tree to get it. Then you will forsure rock Dirty Tricks right? And Smashing Counter. All those are "no brainers".
So if Myrm is swapped with Staggering Impact. How the hell you gonna get Myrm if its tier 3 Mastery? It requires 14 points right? I dont think you have enough for all that... Maybe at RR80? Maybe I did my math wrong...
I thought that by putting it up there, it was no accessible unless you gave up Vigilance, or DT, or SC... Which are all more important than a ST damager...
Ontop of that, you are also giving up putting points in Path of Glory to boost your "Gather your Resolve!" which is costing precious resist buff/debuffs.
So it seems even if you wanted to grab this thing... you have to give up ALOT for it (resists + KD or DT) to get it...
Unless I am missing something.
I mean shoot, if you are that worried about it and I am overlooking something then make it 2H only... I got no qualms with that. Thats basically what I am saying anyways - I dont ever see a SNB person getting this ANYWAYS. But I could be wrong. If that is the sticking point, do it. You wont hear any complaints about it, nobody uses it anyways.