Return of Reckoning

The Loudmouth tactic of the BO states: War Bellows [listing] now also deal x damage to your offensive target. From my understanding that is supposed to be your current target. On RoR it currently damages the enemy the Warbellow triggered on, not your current target.

Since I have not played BO on live I want to ask any BO veteran how the tactic actually worked there.

On live it use to proc on any target your war bellow hits, it was basically an aoe fluff damage tactic.

The closest mirror, Potent Enchantments, procs on the target that the Blade Enchantment was triggered on. Loudmouth is working the same way - this can easily be inferred from how stupid it would be to have someone being damaged by a War Bellow whose actual effect was taking place a long way away from them, just because the BO had them targeted.

We can also safely say that this effect is not bound to the debuffs caused by War Bellows, because the only War Bellow that actually creates debuffs is Da Biggest!, and when SM used similar handling, PE in combination with Nature's Blade became too powerful.

On live it damaged your current target, you can ask the many bright wizards that died when this combined with can't hit me bellow procs.

Hrmm...

Azarael wrote:The closest mirror, Potent Enchantments, procs on the target that the Blade Enchantment was triggered on.

Which is perfectly reflected in the wording. The wording of Loudmouth is very different, that is why I believed it would be handled differently. I also asked a guildmate who remembers the effect being on the current target, but he was unsure of the exact rules on how it worked.

I might be wrong all along though

On live it damaged your current target. In keep defenses, sometimes i would run Da Greenest!, tank wall, and target BWs or SWs. With so much damage around me, i proc'd Da Greenest! (and therefore Loudmouth) a lot. It was fun getting kills this way. Of course, if my target was in a group, or other healers noticed his health going down, i wouldn't kill anyone this way. But still, it happened every once in a while.

taistydwarves wrote:On live it damaged your current target, you can ask the many bright wizards that died when this combined with can't hit me bellow procs.

Ah yeah, now i remembered! The damage from Can't Hit me! would proc Da Biggest! and therefore, Loudmouth. Yeah, now i remember it all: Tank wall at a keep, run Da Biggest!, Loudmouth and Can't hit me!. And watch a Squishie die.

Da Greenest! wasn't as reliable since it only proc'd when you got hit. If you parried/blocked/disrupted, it never proc'd.

Da Biggest! would proc off of can't hit me causing loudmouth to be somewhat fatal if you could find a squishy without heals.

Azarael wrote: this can easily be inferred from how stupid it would be to have someone being damaged by a War Bellow whose actual effect was taking place a long way away from them

WAR was like this ID proc stuff when slayer had no LOS or was 100000000000 feet away etc.

Morf wrote:On live it use to proc on any target your war bellow hits, it was basically an aoe fluff damage tactic.

I don't know about late version's on live, but around 1.4 it only procced on your target. No target, no proc.