Return of Reckoning

I hope that I won't get an infraction or be banned for posting about this. I know discussion of exploits is frowned upon but unfortunately the Keeps are difficult to just avoid entirely on certain maps. I was initially just going to PM a staff member about this but I don't seem to have that ability yet.

I'm not making this thread to report anyone or to name and shame etc. but to simply bring attention to some poor behavior and request that the community on both sides try to discourage what I'm about to describe until the issue with Keeps is fixed.

I was playing my warrior priest in T2 last night and after taking the Crypt in Ostland, the Order warband started heading to take the next Objective. We were met with a Destruction warband just outside. After the Order warband initially pushed the Destruction warband towards their Warcamp, the Destruction side began winning the fight and the Order warband was in full retreat. I'm running around trying to heal and resurrect the fallen when I notice that my cast won't complete and my character's animation is stuck. I immediately think to myself "Oh no! Is the server crashing?! Wait no other people are okay, am I disconnecting?". And that's when I see destruction players beginning to accuse us of exploiting. After my initial "Huh wtf are they talking about?" reaction, I notice that I'm fairly close to the Keep and I remember all the talk I've seen about them being bugged and exploiters will be banned. I run away from the Keep and the Destruction players immediately kill me.

That's fine, you win some, you lose some. What bothers me is that I then respawn inside the Keep! I run outside and try to leave but the Destruction warband is still outside waiting and follow me as I run away from the Keep. I ask them not to camp us inside the Keep but they kill me anyway and I respawn back in the Keep. I leave out the back entrance this time and sure enough, there's a group of Destruction players waiting to kill me. Rinse and repeat. Not wanting to deal with it and not wanting to get banned, I log out for the night.

Please, if you see your warband doing this, try to encourage them to leave the Keep area so the fight can continue elsewhere!

ecto wrote:Not wanting to deal with it and not wanting to get banned, I log out for the night.

I would have used my Book of Binding. But i guess it is much easier to go to the forums and make a thread...

You could do that if it was off of cooldown. But even then it wouldn't change the fact that there are players camping others inside of Keeps that are known to be bugged and if you die anywhere in that general area later on you're right back in the same situation. This is a game and it was late (for me). I didn't want to deal with it anymore at the time so I did what was, in my opinion, the mature thing and walked away. I made a post on the forum the next day with a level head to appeal to the community to encourage better behavior from their fellow players.

I despise the people who are solo/small groups and purposely kite/run into these bugged keeps to not loose/die. I see destro players kiting into order keep to not die, and vice versa.

Sometimes you have to pass through those areas, like the main route out of destro t2 elf warcamp, or to get to the vendors.
Order has always played around the position of the keep in t2 emp, that's how its always been, on live and here. It's hard to get some people to change their play-styles, especially with the pug mentality of strength in numbers.

Blatant abuse of this is infuriating, and those doing it should be dealt with, in my opinion.

Lileldys wrote:Sometimes you have to pass through those areas, like the main route out of destro t2 elf warcamp, or to get to the vendors.

Exactly! On some maps you simply cannot just avoid the keeps altogether. That's why this is such an issue.

ecto wrote:You could do that if it was off of cooldown.

If you crash your game/log out, the book will be off cooldown. Actually, if you log at a BO or keep, when you log back in you should be at the WC iirc.

Yes, keeps are bugged. Devs know it, but they already said keeps probably won't be fixed until they release T4.

Yes, sometimes you will be trapped in your keep while your enemies camp you. But as i pointed out, there are ways to easily leave your keep. What do you want? Are you suggesting those players should be banned? Or are you asking for them to stop? I doubt they will. And tbh, i really REALLY doubt many players are just camping keeps doing what you described.

I have a suggestion for you: just focus on SCs and don't do RvR atm because keeps are broken. Unless you can deal with the fact that sometimes things won't work correctly in this Alpha game.

Penril wrote:What do you want? Are you suggesting those players should be banned? Or are you asking for them to stop? I doubt they will. And tbh, i really REALLY doubt many players are just camping keeps doing what you described.

I have a suggestion for you: just focus on SCs and don't do RvR atm because keeps are broken. Unless you can deal with the fact that sometimes things won't work correctly in this Alpha game.

Where in either of my posts did I say anything suggesting that I think they should be banned? I mentioned how I tried to PM a staff member about it because I wanted to check if it was okay to discuss matters related to the issue of Keeps on the forum.

Yes, I know this is an alpha and there will be things that don't work. I fully accept that and I don't care that Keeps are currently broken. I was not complaining about that at all. I requested that we as a community try to encourage our fellow players to leave the Keep area if/when we see them engaging in behavior like this. I'm really not sure why that rustles your jimmies so much.

How about you stay away from the keeps til they are fixed...... lol

warhammer69 wrote:How about you stay away from the keeps til they are fixed...... lol

As Lileldys and I have already mentioned, you cannot do that on certain maps.

Book of binding resolves your issue.

Also, I can't help myself, git gud.