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[RP] Grungni's Gift VS Rune of Restoration
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:20 am
by Tevez
Hi there guys,
Still quite new to the game and have recently unlocked the skill Rune of Restoration. As of now RoR (Rune of Restoration) seems worse than GG (Grungni's Gift).
Right now GG heals for 125 and costs 15 AP instant cast time, while RoR costs 45 and heals for 395 with a 2s cast time.
Althought RoR heals for more and does not seem to have a GCD you dont regen AP if you are chain casting it. On top of that there is significant knockback if you are being hit.
With GG it seems you can literally cast it forever, maybe having to wait half a sec to go from 0-15 AP and you can constantly be running casting this. RoR does heal for more per AP but having that pushback especially in PvP and not receiving AP regen while chain casting at face value just seems worse.
Im assuming im not seeing the big picture here but just looking at the tooltips it seems GG wins hands down.
If anyone has any insight on this I would love to hear it.
Thanks
Re: [RP] Grungni's Gift VS Rune of Restoration
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:49 am
by Keyser
Well, the approximately HPS with your numbers are the following:
- Rune of Restoration: 395 / 2s = 197.5
- GG: 125 / 1.1s = 113.6 (1.1s is the global cooldown)
Hence rune of restoration heals per second more than gg. But if you need to move, have problems with your ap or you get focused, use the HoT, rune of mending or gg.
Re: [RP] Grungni's Gift VS Rune of Restoration
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:50 am
by Sigimund
Current GCD is 1.1s
Re: [RP] Grungni's Gift VS Rune of Restoration
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:53 am
by Keyser
Sigimund wrote:Current GCD is 1.1s
Oh, really... I did not know that. My previous post got edited.
Re: [RP] Grungni's Gift VS Rune of Restoration
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:27 am
by Tevez
Ah k thanks for info guys,
Didn't know GCD was at 1.1 good info though Keyser, will have to rethink my healing now. Have been using RoR a bit more just for the hell of it but might have to change my play style. Usually im somewhat near the front throwing out instant heals but might hang further back to do RoR.
Ive also heard that casting heals can crit for higher % than instant ones.
Re: [RP] Grungni's Gift VS Rune of Restoration
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:48 am
by Gachimuchi
Tevez wrote:Ive also heard that casting heals can crit for higher % than instant ones.
False.
Also you should probably get beyond tier 1 and get a grasp of your class before making threads like these. You can't go too horribly wrong with what you're doing at the moment. At later tiers when you have to pull out all the stops are when you evaluate these things.
But I'm just splitting hairs, at least you aren't complaining about something before getting out of tier 1.
Re: [RP] Grungni's Gift VS Rune of Restoration
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:39 am
by Annaise16
Sigimund wrote:Current GCD is 1.1s
The gcd is 1.5 seconds. Test it yourself if you are unsure.
Re: [RP] Grungni's Gift VS Rune of Restoration
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:13 am
by Lileldys
Annaise16 wrote:Sigimund wrote:Current GCD is 1.1s
The gcd is 1.5 seconds. Test it yourself if you are unsure.
No, its 1.1s
Re: [RP] Grungni's Gift VS Rune of Restoration
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:17 am
by Annaise16
Lileldys wrote:Annaise16 wrote:Sigimund wrote:Current GCD is 1.1s
The gcd is 1.5 seconds. Test it yourself if you are unsure.
No, its 1.1s
So, how did you test it?
Before you reply, you might like to know that when I tested it by timing I got an average gcd of just over 1.6 seconds.
I spammed an ability for 10 consecutive gcds and timed how long this took. The results of 3 separate tests were:
16.38 seconds for 10 gcds
16.40 seconds, and
16.00 seconds.
So that gives an average time 48.78 seconds / 30 gcds = 1.63 seconds per gcd.
That result is a long way away from 1.1 seconds.
Re: [RP] Grungni's Gift VS Rune of Restoration
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:53 am
by Lileldys
Annaise16 wrote:
So, how did you test it?
Before you reply, you might like to know that when I tested it by timing I got an average gcd of just over 1.6 seconds.
I spammed an ability for 10 consecutive gcds and timed how long this took. The results of 3 separate tests were:
16.38 seconds for 10 gcds
16.40 seconds, and
16.00 seconds.
So that gives an average time 48.78 seconds / 30 gcds = 1.63 seconds per gcd.
That result is a long way away from 1.1 seconds.
Aza said so -
https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/5192