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[Marauder] tactic
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:53 am
by Helltrain
Hey !
Actually Marauder have lot of good tactic but he can't trully use it.
Exemple, at 32 :
In Brutality, they are stuck with str/init + 15% rear/side + 50% dmg crit
In Savagery, they are stuck with WS/Init + 15% rear/side + 50% debuff heal
At 40, just add 50% bypass armor on mutated skill.
So, the point here, is there no real choice because losing one of those tactic for another is just gimping yourself.
I would like to put choice again.
I tough about it, and why no make the first double stat tactic sticked to morph without the need of tactic slot ? of course with nerfed stat.
Like 80/80 at 40; so if the same marauder take the 160str tactic, it get back to the same amount of stat than before, but now, he has choice.
In Brutality before; 160str/160init sticked to morph and tactic + 15% rear/side + 50% dmg crit = 320stats
In Brutality after; 80str/80init only sticked to morph + str160 + 15% rear/side + 50% dmg crit = 320stats
Or maybe less, since more choice is also a up.
Re: [Marauder] tactic
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:17 am
by Eldunae
Well a long time ago the marauder didnt dual wield, her gift just gave him a new arm wich either different stats or a copy of her other weapon (wich was kinda broken in early tiers the copy one.)
I really think the mara needs lvl 40 to really unlock his full potential (deadly embrace, Piercing bite) So i wouldnt make changes now, because they might make him a bit to OP.
Or maybe not, because last tiem i got critted bi a WL basic attack i kinda exploded.
However i think the lion lsoes alot of steam at 40, so im not calling for nerfs (yet)
Re: [Marauder] tactic
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:41 pm
by foof
Just don't use the specced tactics? They waste a mastery point, provide a fairly meh extra stat (init) and only work in one stance. Nobody is forcing you to use them, and on live, nobody did.
Re: [Marauder] tactic
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:01 am
by TenTonHammer
Tto be fair mara has one of the worst base ints in the game and therefore one of the highest chances to be crit at 32 i had 20% chance to be crit with feeding on fear it would have been 30 and under kotbs it would have been 50%
While i feel its better to just drop some points into futile strikes initiative does have some merit on mara, not these tactics but the stat itself
Re: [Marauder] tactic
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:23 am
by Shadowgurke
foof wrote:Just don't use the specced tactics? They waste a mastery point, provide a fairly meh extra stat (init) and only work in one stance. Nobody is forcing you to use them, and on live, nobody did.
Listen to this guy so I can make easy RP, ty!
Re: [Marauder] tactic
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:26 am
by Vigfuss
Stat wise those tactics are actually not bad at this level, but the problem is you sort of end up committing to one stance.
Re: [Marauder] tactic
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:27 am
by Shadowgurke
Vigfuss wrote:Stat wise those tactics are actually not bad at this level, but the problem is you sort of end up committing to one stance.
Which, conveniently, seems to be the case with Sav anyway :/
Re: [Marauder] tactic
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:36 am
by Vigfuss
Shadowgurke wrote:Vigfuss wrote:Stat wise those tactics are actually not bad at this level, but the problem is you sort of end up committing to one stance.
Which, conveniently, seems to be the case with Sav anyway :/
Yeah at this level stance dance Mara isn't quite as good as it will be, but losing a bunch of initiative to proc Monstro is sometimes not the best idea when certain debuffs are flying around.
Re: [Marauder] tactic
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:39 am
by foof
Meh, I'd rather just get a guard and run a DPS tactic (as Sav), even at 32. At 40, you shouldn't be caught dead running either of those. I guess if you cap str without the tactic you could rock that as you don't get Fof to what 33 right?
The Brut one had some merit on live (for double stacking str) if for some reason you decide to level as full Brut, but who does that?
Re: [Marauder] tactic
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:25 am
by Bretin
why on earth would anyone use a stat tactic on the mrd at lvl 40 voluntary?
"The Brut one had some merit on live (for double stacking str) "
where did you take those slots and the additional mastery point from?
at 32 you CAN run bruteforce but still have better options due to the fact that offensive stats - e.g. strength - are more overrated than Nerfed Buttons.