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2H Swordmaster vs 2H Black Orc

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:05 pm
by Earthpac
so I'm currently deciding which of these 2 tanks to play for my 2h tank and I'm pretty torn between them.

I know they are mirrors but they seem quite different in a lot of ways as Swordmaster can deal mainly spirit damage and Blorc only deals physical.

Also their utility tree's seem fairly different.

Which one is a better 2h tank, taking both the damage and utility trees into account?

I've heard the Blorc damage tree is better but I can't tell why.

How would a Blorc 2h path of the boss build compare to a Swordmaster 2h hoeth build?

Re: 2H Swordmaster vs 2H Black Orc

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:12 pm
by Gobtar
The swordmaster is better of the two for going 2h, Swordmasters have alot of amazing parry increasing abilities that make a 2h more viable, also their Khaine spec makes them fairly potent.
Black Orcs can go full glass cannon but they dont gain that much from going 2 hander. If they go DPS they can still have a shield and keep alot of durability, plus they have some amazing tactics that require a shield.

Re: 2H Swordmaster vs 2H Black Orc

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:14 pm
by roadkillrobin
Blorcs go Shield even with dps spec. Makes you able to guard properly and put out alot of dmg (for a tank). Only time i would go 2hander is for Choppa AoE wb support or when group is lacking dps or 3+ healers. SM is a different mather as they got so high Parry they can guard properly with 2hander.

Re: 2H Swordmaster vs 2H Black Orc

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:15 pm
by Penril
Gobtar wrote:The swordmaster is better of the two for going 2h, Swordmasters have alot of amazing parry increasing abilities that make a 2h more viable, also their Khaine spec makes them fairly potent.
Black Orcs can go full glass cannon but they dont gain that much from going 2 hander. If they go DPS they can still have a shield and keep alot of durability, plus they have some amazing tactics that require a shield.
The only one i can think of is Good wif Shield.

Re: 2H Swordmaster vs 2H Black Orc

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:16 pm
by TenTonHammer
Penril wrote:
The only one i can think of is Good wif Shield.
You sez me blok dat?

Re: 2H Swordmaster vs 2H Black Orc

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 2:17 pm
by Penril
TenTonHammer wrote:
Penril wrote:
The only one i can think of is Good wif Shield.
You sez me blok dat?
Sorry! i forgot :P

Yeah that one is mandatory (we need level 33).

OT: SM is a better 2H tank than BO.

Re: 2H Swordmaster vs 2H Black Orc

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:06 pm
by Earthpac
how do SM's get such high parry?

Do they just have it innately or does everyone stack the parry talents?

Re: 2H Swordmaster vs 2H Black Orc

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:13 pm
by Penril
You should ask Nanji, apparently he found out a way to get SMs parry to 100% by stacking Wall of Darting Steel and Eagle's Flight (j/k Nanji :P )

Re: 2H Swordmaster vs 2H Black Orc

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:30 pm
by Nanji
Penril wrote:You should ask Nanji, apparently he found out a way to get SMs parry to 100% by stacking Wall of Darting Steel and Eagle's Flight (j/k Nanji :P )
100% parry was ez on live even if EF didnt stack with the 2h channel.
Now stop trolling. :P

Re: 2H Swordmaster vs 2H Black Orc

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:49 pm
by Greatwarden
OP: please keep in mind that the SM's 50% parry ability (Wall of Darting Steel) isn't available until rank 40 whereas you can get the BO 50% block (Can't Hit Me) now.