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Re: Sm/Bo talk only!!!!!

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:07 pm
by Bignusty
BO dont need more atm and for the next lvl cap at lvl 35( at 40 to )we can take Big Swing whit the tactic on shief aoe snare debuff str desorient 5 sec + Where You Going at lvl 30 some control abilities inc .

Im gonna to play like this for lvl 35 off tank 2H on premade :
http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=bo; ... 469:4470:0:

Re: Sm/Bo talk only!!!!!

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:26 am
by Kazekiri
First step was a succes (kd 9 pts), what is the next one? :)
Waiting for T3 first?
How about extending the duration of some abilities (eagle flight, dragon talon...) as suggested before?

Re: Sm/Bo talk only!!!!!

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:09 pm
by Bignusty
Kazekiri wrote:First step was a succes (kd 9 pts), what is the next one? :)
Waiting for T3 first?
How about extending the duration of some abilities (eagle flight, dragon talon...) as suggested before?
Lol what else ?

Re: Sm/Bo talk only!!!!!

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:12 pm
by Azarael
Bignusty wrote:Lol what else ?
If you can't or won't contribute, get out of the topic.

Re: Sm/Bo talk only!!!!!

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:43 pm
by Bignusty
Azarael wrote:
Bignusty wrote:Lol what else ?
If you can't or won't contribute, get out of the topic.
Why ? If you do some adjustment on SM so do the same on BO like "Arm Braka" or "SmH" (mirror Dragon's talon if you up the duration).

Re: Sm/Bo talk only!!!!!

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:51 pm
by Azarael
Unless the abilities are mirrored and BO is exactly as weak as SM, no, we don't need to mirror every single change on BO to SM, and vice versa.

Re: Sm/Bo talk only!!!!!

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:11 pm
by Coryphaus
indeed just because a class is mirrored dosnt mean they equal need buffs mara and wl are mirrored but wl needs buffs not mara like wiser in this cas sm is worse off than blorcs and buffs to the former dosnt need to be mirrored on the latter

Re: Sm/Bo talk only!!!!!

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:31 pm
by jojomen
Azarael hello again, i said it before chosens and Kobts got their infinity auras about how it would make balance population crash (today,destro side 2 times had wb fights and in both of them our PUG had 19Tanks out of 24 ppl and 16 .... Cute chosens).
That was little push towards easy life for aura-tanks , as one of chosens i felt so much joy but same time worry who would be playing BOs and SMs if chosen+bg(ofc and theirs mirrors) so easy to be useful even if u are bad .
SUGGESTION :
1) pls for god sake add ADDON "Plan B" to start pack of addons (newbies just cant play BO+SM without it);
2) To be honest and fair you can just make SMs "BlADE ENCHANTMETS"+ BOs "WAR BELLOWS"
to be PARTY buffs just like WP and DOK has theirs : "COVENANTS+PRAYERS" .

Re: Sm/Bo talk only!!!!!

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:43 pm
by Tesq
destinated to victory need a mirror on order side and the candidate are IB or SM.
SM should get that mirrored from chosen imo.

BO it's really near in term o group support to chosen, if the way resistence/armor buff would be change BO would be a valid alpha tank alternative to chosen but more melee support oriented than chosen. Also save me hide (magic damage reduction) could be boost of some seconds.

While on order side kobs it's too much op , if as start those op tactics could be moved all from 7 to 11 points (JUST LIKE DONE for the bo/sm KD) and also SM got destinated to victory early in game and redirect force changed to be a medium punt that woudl be nice.

Im totally against make those BO/sm buff groups as that would became like a 4th aura ( ye you can have 2 x chosen and use 6 auras but none would be good as auras + absorb/wouds increase, it would be with the currently value).

-If Bo it's a phsysic support tank with anti magic tool (save me hide) then Swordmaster should be a magic support tank with anti physic tool, SM lack a damage reduction of physic attack of 10% .
But there is nothign with a similar eff on sm.

Aethiryc armor value could be change to buff all party member by x armor so to rappresent that 10% damage reduction i was talk about. (10% cos bo reduces 20% magic damage , but those are higer than pshycis and also resistence have strong ST debuff that totally nullify resistence aura buff)

Power from the gods also, could be mirrored to sm to make his sword buff reg 5 ap x sec , considering that perfect balance skill do not consume ap and have free ap swap that could help his ap pool.

(The name of these 2 skill are also not bad with elf lore)

As x Bo, sm redirect force need to be a base medium punt.

BO:

da greenest: 25% on hit to increase magic resistences (all) or armor based on the attack type (refreshable)

Saving me hide: from 4 to 7 seconds

Right in da jibblies: add medium knockback



SM:

power from the gods from chosen mirrored to SM (SM/BO buff would be label as auras)

Destinated to victory from chosen mirrored to SM

Redirected force: Add medium knockback eff

KoBS:

Focused mending: moved from 7 to 11 point

Dirty tricks: moved from 7 to 11 point

Encourage aim: moved from 7 to 11 point

Re: Sm/Bo talk only!!!!!

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:46 pm
by jojomen
Tesq do you srsly wonna change WHOLE game?, easier just to call EA and ask them to make new one.

No need to go as far and change tooltips on skills and made newones....... we love war couz we played dat game, and liked her as she was (2008-2012), and i still can agree to minor changes but to add new skills and give racial skills from dwarfs or human skill to orcs (exemple) it's too much.

We just love WAR because all classes here NOT the same and each has their own pros and cons ..... and if all of them would be the same as everyone else what a point in call them "BLACK orcs" just texture which has come skill form Kobts , dwarf racial and nothing on his own?).

And you think if Azarael make SMs "BlADE ENCHANTMETS"+ BOs "WAR BELLOWS" -in party buffs it still would be not enough to make them popular?