Return of Reckoning

amputationsaw wrote:

warhammer1995 wrote:

amputationsaw wrote:Will group heals get a rework? as soon as they were implemented I see more and more healers in SCs hiding in a corner beyond the fight spamming their group heal. would be nice see that this heals only heal the groupmates who are in sight.

No sc group frames,so what other choise hawe healers?

the missing unit frames are an excuse of hiding and aoe spamming? I hope that's not the intent.
We healed without frames all the Time and it's hard, but not impossible.[/quot

Hiding behind wall and using aoe heal can't keep alive dps long,i don't think its big deal.

Aoe heal behind walls was on live if I remember right. A wp could stay inside the keep doors while tanks and dps went out side. And like Warhammer1995 said it couldn't keep them up for very long, you would have to come back inside and get a direct heal.

Its really funny discussion. AOE heal had same mechanic on live.

Wow, so amazing what you guys/gals have done so far.

warhammer1995 wrote:
Hiding behind wall and using aoe heal can't keep alive dps long,i don't think its big deal.

gheals arent that much lower than a single target heal and though it means a dps needs to kite off pressure earlier as long as tanks are switching and peeling they can keep people up. That changes when all classes start getting specable hdebuffs. At that point, around lvl 25, healers must start to cleanse or gheals alone are not nearly enough. Then only the dok/wpriest can gclease and cleanse without los. This is one of the reasons along with constant aoe detaunt and more boost procs due to faster casts that puts wp/dok so far ahead of the other healers. While gheals maybe shouldnt need a los check, i think they do, cleanse certainly should.

I have to cleanse like a damned due to not have aoe group cleanse :/

Aoe heal and aoe cleanse are designed to counter aoe dot and enemy aoe damage, nerf only the healing side would have worst results, it would be better make magus/engi have 15ap x dot cost than that, that way both can use their meccanic correctly, also they suffer no more from cleanse as before and with longer time require to clear all dot it became more a time factor.
Also you can aoe cleanse totaly with out los onyl if you cleanse yourself, usually if you are in los that don't happen. Dok/wp should be forced to stay more frontline instead make the cleanse problematic or their aoe/clease badder/unusable.

They are frontline healers all problem born cos ppl are able to play them as backline healer

Tesq wrote:I have to cleanse like a damned due to not have aoe group cleanse :/

Aoe heal and aoe cleanse are designed to counter aoe dot and enemy aoe damage, nerf only the healing side would have worst results, it would be better make magus/engi have 15ap x dot cost than that, that way both can use their meccanic correctly, also they suffer no more from cleanse as before and with longer time require to clear all dot it became more a time factor.
Also you can aoe cleanse totaly with out los onyl if you cleanse yourself, usually if you are in los that don't happen. Dok/wp should be forced to stay more frontline instead make the cleanse problematic or their aoe/clease badder/unusable.

They are frontline healers all problem born cos ppl are able to play them as backline healer

AP isnt an issue late game with procs, gear regen and endless blue ap pots. Which is when dot classes have issues.

What needs to happen is give all healers gcleanse but on a 20s cd, reduced to 15s with rp tactic. So with 2 healers per party you cant spam cleanse. This would give RP a cleanse advantage and give ams the ghot (with tactic) that they need. Making both healers better cleansers than the wp/dok that are the ghealing specialists. This would also stop healers spam cleansing themselves and make dps healers less 1v1 gods in lower tiers.

Its been a few years since the old endless hours of late night theorycrafting on the old forums that was totally ignored by absentee mythic devs. Still I remember alot of the good ideas the community came up with. This wasnt my idea but I remember thinking it was a really good one.

I'm just returning after like half a year maybe, and holly snorts! you guys been making progress alrite! last time i remember i couldn't use most of my battle priest's abilities (the ones that required stacks anyway. ) good to see everything is going along smoothly.

good job people, now t3!

ThammuZ wrote:good job people, now t3!

Dont you think the other 2 pairings would be gud to have before that?
just wondering :>