Return of Reckoning

Wdova wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:24 am From reading all of this stuff I must ask what happend to SW class past few years? I remember SW was verry deadly to unguarded healers and RDPS who doesnt throw detaunt in time. On live support class was engineer and SW and BW nukkers, now it seems sides changes and engineer + BW are nukkers and SW just support. I must ask what support abbilities SW can offer besides nerfed Leading shoot tactic and spamable heal debuff. For support engineer was better designed with better CC, realm heal, group crit buff + AP replenishment from turret.

Elftwin95 wrote: Sun May 19, 2019 2:55 pm The changes to the Scout line and SWs in general is that nowadays even with the aformentions tactics you can not crit with FA for more then 2k since the Devs felt that to be able to make futher balance and career changes that had to be adressed IIRC. Welcome back Suriael!

Suriael wrote: Sun May 19, 2019 4:12 pm

Elftwin95 wrote: Sun May 19, 2019 2:55 pm The changes to the Scout line and SWs in general is that nowadays even with the aformentions tactics you can not crit with FA for more then 2k since the Devs felt that to be able to make futher balance and career changes that had to be adressed IIRC. Welcome back Suriael!

Well, that is discouraging. Looks like SW has no real place atm. Hopefully Dev team has some plans to make it actually viable.
Thanks for anwer and cya on the battlefield.

jasonX wrote: Sun May 19, 2019 5:02 pm MADMAXI sorry to break it to you mate.... starting a post like that will result in 100 trolls responding that SW damage is really "fine" . 99.99% of those trolls have never played a SW and just recall the only viable scout spec SW had like 6 months ago that was nerfed to the ground. Additionally to that they are sore because they get regularely owned by premades with assault SW so they will just again tell you that the class needs a nerf...

The thing is that the physical damage mitigation nowadays is huge and SW dont really have proper tools to deal with that. A 900 armor debuff is a joke (just barely counters the armor pot) and stacking 700+ WS kinda works so that your dots tick for 200 and your SFA hits for 300 leaving you with no defensive stats at all since you had to stack ballistics AND WS.... The class is nerfed to the ground and there is no indication that the Dev team will do anything about it apart from further nerfing it.

I have already made a number of posts regarding the low viability of this class and the responses were trolling, tons of bro-science based info and generally a death of logic.
On the following post i used numbers and yet people were just spamming anything that randomly came down on their minds.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31614

Apart from the afraid-of-some-proper-competition destro community that only wants you as an easy-to-kill-target-that-poses-no-real-threat, no Dev or GM plays a SW so tbh mate there is no future here. None will ever get a good look on the SW class since the people in charge literally have never played one to have a proper point of view.

There is only one solution, stop playing your SW, its a joke class, roll a slayer a BW or a WL.

I did that and I now have peace of mind. I rarely play my 84rr fully endgame geared SW because there is no point in it. You get owned by the majority of the classes in this game in any way (solo, party, warband) unless you play assault.

jasonX wrote: Sun May 19, 2019 5:02 pm MADMAXI sorry to break it to you mate.... starting a post like that will result in 100 trolls responding that SW damage is really "fine" . 99.99% of those trolls have never played a SW and just recall the only viable scout spec SW had like 6 months ago that was nerfed to the ground. Additionally to that they are sore because they get regularely owned by premades with assault SW so they will just again tell you that the class needs a nerf...

The thing is that the physical damage mitigation nowadays is huge and SW dont really have proper tools to deal with that. A 900 armor debuff is a joke (just barely counters the armor pot) and stacking 700+ WS kinda works so that your dots tick for 200 and your SFA hits for 300 leaving you with no defensive stats at all since you had to stack ballistics AND WS.... The class is nerfed to the ground and there is no indication that the Dev team will do anything about it apart from further nerfing it.

I have already made a number of posts regarding the low viability of this class and the responses were trolling, tons of bro-science based info and generally a death of logic.
On the following post i used numbers and yet people were just spamming anything that randomly came down on their minds.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31614

Apart from the afraid-of-some-proper-competition destro community that only wants you as an easy-to-kill-target-that-poses-no-real-threat, no Dev or GM plays a SW so tbh mate there is no future here. None will ever get a good look on the SW class since the people in charge literally have never played one to have a proper point of view.

There is only one solution, stop playing your SW, its a joke class, roll a slayer a BW or a WL.

I did that and I now have peace of mind. I rarely play my 84rr fully endgame geared SW because there is no point in it. You get owned by the majority of the classes in this game in any way (solo, party, warband) unless you play assault.

Ysaran wrote: Mon May 20, 2019 6:43 am If any of you think that SW is actually underperforming then write a Balance proposal and post it in the BDF