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Re: KOTBS discussion
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:59 pm
by Tklees
bloodi wrote:Tklees wrote:I'm "on order", the point of my idea is that the tactic was never used unless someone saw a shaman pre fight. It would continue to go unused if it wasn't a hard counter to Shaman. That's all I'm saying
It was never used unless we saw a shaman because it only broke shamans and we never saw shamans because they were already bad without that on top, compared to zealot and dok.
If that tactic could be run against every healer comp destruction has, it would be run all the time, negating 3 gcds in one is too good to pass up.
I see your point. Guess the best thing to do would be the remove the CD and increase its ap cost like the rune priest cleanse tactic
Re: KOTBS discussion
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:17 pm
by Tiggo
Poor little Shaman! He is so SLOW and has absolutly NO CC... poor poor little green man ... *snief*
oh... wait ...
Re: KOTBS discussion
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:25 pm
by Penril
Tiggo wrote:Poor little Shaman! He is so SLOW and has absolutly NO CC... poor poor little green man ... *snief*
oh... wait ...
Yet another guy that thinks the KotBS needs to chase the Shaman.
It doesnt matter if the Shaman is as fast as The Flash... his HoTs/shield will still hurt his allies when a KotBS is around.
I have a suggestion though: Let's remove RUN AWAY from the game. This will make the following skills not needed anymore:
- Destroy Confidence
- Ranged KDs
- Pounce
After all, the main excuse for those skills has always been "but gobbos!!!". Deal?
Re: KOTBS discussion
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:29 pm
by Tklees
Tiggo wrote:Poor little Shaman! He is so SLOW and has absolutly NO CC... poor poor little green man ... *snief*
oh... wait ...
Again like the OP. The shatter being OP has nothing to do with the Shamans being under powered and has to do with the fact that the Kotbs can remove every hot, buff, and shield the shaman can put on a target in one gcd. Completely canceling out 3 gcds of the Shamans while also doing damage.
I'm done explaining this to people. There is 5 pages of discussion if you would like a more in depth answer please see there.
Re: KOTBS discussion
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:30 pm
by bloodi
Penril wrote:After all, the main excuse for those skills has always been "but gobbos!!!". Deal?
You seriously need to stop with this ****.
I am almost sure that the only one who mentions it every time is you.
Re: KOTBS discussion
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:31 pm
by Penril
bloodi wrote:Penril wrote:After all, the main excuse for those skills has always been "but gobbos!!!". Deal?
You seriously need to stop with this ****.
I am almost sure that the only one who mentions it every time is you.
Make me.
And no.... everytime someone mentions ranged KDs? "But gobbos are too fast, thats the only way to catch them".
(
http://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/ ... 308#p89324)
Someone mentions Pounce? "but gobbos are too fast, thats the only way a order mdps can get close to them".
(
http://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/ ... e+run+away)
Someone mentions DC? Look at this thread.
Re: KOTBS discussion
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:38 pm
by Tklees
Penril wrote:Tiggo wrote:Poor little Shaman! He is so SLOW and has absolutly NO CC... poor poor little green man ... *snief*
oh... wait ...
Yet another guy that thinks the KotBS needs to chase the Shaman.
It doesnt matter if the Shaman is as fast as The Flash... his HoTs/shield will still hurt his allies when a KotBS is around.
I have a suggestion though: Let's remove RUN AWAY from the game. This will make the following skills not needed anymore:
- Destroy Confidence
- Ranged KDs
- Pounce
After all, the main excuse for those skills has always been "but gobbos!!!". Deal?
I'd make the deal except for pounce. That is part of what makes a WL. However I'd agree to a 5 second cooldown if run away was gone
Re: KOTBS discussion
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:39 pm
by bloodi
Penril wrote:Make me.
And no.... everytime someone mentions ranged KDs? "But gobbos are too fast, thats the only way to catch them".
Someone mentions Pounce? "but gobbos are too fast, thats the only way a order mdps can get close to them".
Someone mentions DC? Look at this thread.
I seriously went and searched the forums for it, the only times this comes up is either me making fun of you for it or you going on this tirade.
Seriously, the only one who cant shut up about the goblin racial is you yet you seem to believe everyone talks about it constantly.
Re: KOTBS discussion
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:42 pm
by Penril
@bloodi: No you didnt, because i found 2 examples in like 1 minute.
@TK: i was, of course, kidding.
Re: KOTBS discussion
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:44 pm
by Tklees
Penril wrote:@bloodi: No you didnt, because i found 2 examples in like 1 minute.
@TK: i was, of course, kidding.
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