Overarching balance changes

[Lileldys]

I dunno i put in i think +10 or 14 weaponskill tali's on all slots
paper doll addon i was usin said it was parry 5% gain ish maybe 6 % gain. Maybe the addon is wrong? Maybe weaponskill works differently in RoR. I dunno. I know i should use .getstats

Weaponskill parry can be ignored by high strength.

[peterthepan3]

The only tank which is better played 2 hand than snb is the sm

Any tank with 2H- can and must be considered as dpser, and when you saying its OKAY to let dpser to do tank job (GUARDING)- on same lvl as real one "tank" didnt you greedy to much? Dps(WP-DOK) cant heal just theirs heal specs do couz its all point of chosing your main role TANK or DD, Healer or DD you cant be both on top lvl in same time.

No. 2h tank does not mean DPS tank. DPS tank means DPS tank.

[Dabbart]

^^^^

You can run a very defensive 2h tank, or a SnB DPS tank. Some groups used to switch it up like that to get people to ignore the wrong tank...

And there really isn't a "better" way. It's down to too many variables to say out-right.

[footpatrol2]

Your taking the parry for the guard damage. Not for attacks against you. Thats the idea at least.

[Bretin]

Mostly bad tanks stack armor.

No it actually makes alot of sence to stack armor as a tank if you do the math on it.

can you share your math please?

[Rebuke]

^^^^

You can run a very defensive 2h tank, or a SnB DPS tank. Some groups used to switch it up like that to get people to ignore the wrong tank...

And there really isn't a "better" way. It's down to too many variables to say out-right.

This. It happens more often than not that my SnB SM outright does more damage than other 2h tanks (dps, not dmg per se).

Also regarding toughness and armor for tanks; it depends on the opposition really, one night in RvR I wish I would have stacked armor tallies, the next toughness. Sadly, I slot neither .....

So I guess I will keep on wishing.

[roadkillrobin]

Mostly bad tanks stack armor.

No it actually makes alot of sence to stack armor as a tank if you do the math on it.

can you share your math please?

No not with you....

[Jaycub]

The only tank which is better played 2 hand than snb is the sm

Any tank with 2H- can and must be considered as dpser, and when you saying its OKAY to let dpser to do tank job (GUARDING)- on same lvl as real one "tank" didnt you greedy to much? Dps(WP-DOK) cant heal just theirs heal specs do couz its all point of choosing your main role TANK or DD, Healer or DD you cant be both on top lvl in same time.

Aside from 2h SM/BO (even SnB) which are dealing pretty damn close to MDPS levels, the choice of 2H and shield is not of choosing to tank or DPS, but rather choosing what utlity they need to run.

Like has been said before in the thread, getting defensive levels necessary on a 2H tank to become a non target is pretty easy. You dont NEED a shied to perform the tank role in this game.


As an example, if we look at the BG the choice being made between 2H and SnB is of of...

2H
>10% crit debuff with 100% uptime tied to an AoE cone attack

SnB
>5 sec KD
>HtL
>50% block channel

The choice is pretty obvious here... The damage increase of the 2h is negligible as I think it's been pointed out before that the difference in defense lost and dps gained is counteracted pretty much between the 2 styles, if not favoring shields a bit more.

You are just making a choice of utility that you bring to the party, and like the BG many tanks suffer from one playstyle drastically out performing the other with SnB being king on all classes save for SM.

[Penril]

Oh, server has been online for a few days now. This thread can now be closed, it served its purpose

[Jaycub]

forums are boring and same problems from before in game :^)

It's more fun shitposting than waiting 15 minutes for sc pops in NA :^)