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Poll: How would you change BOs and SMs?

Give them a skill that decreases their enemies chance to crit
2
2%
Give them a skill that decreases their groupmates chance to be crit
5
5%
Give them a skill that decreases their groupmates taken crit damage
13
13%
Give them a skill that AoE debuffs armor
12
12%
Other (explain)
23
23%
Do nothing, both classes are fine
40
41%
Nerf them (explain)
3
3%
Total votes: 98

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Silvertusk
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Re: Poll: BOs and SMs

Post#81 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:15 pm

yes, but how does that fit into BO theme/lore if it is to be mirrored? BO isn't exactly the type of thing you would see fighting alongside casters :^)[/quote]

Yeah that theme would be problematic for Bo lore/theme
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feefy1
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Re: Poll: BOs and SMs

Post#82 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:43 pm

Silvertusk wrote:yes, but how does that fit into BO theme/lore if it is to be mirrored? BO isn't exactly the type of thing you would see fighting alongside casters :^)
Yeah that theme would be problematic for Bo lore/theme[/quote]


Do you really think lore would pose a problem when balancing?
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Jaycub
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Re: Poll: BOs and SMs

Post#83 » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:43 pm

feefy1 wrote:

Do you really think lore would pose a problem when balancing?
Yes. muh immersion!

If I play a black orc i want to delve into their deep lore and become on all levels except for physical a badass ork warrior :^)
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Yyrd
Posts: 29

Re: Poll: BOs and SMs

Post#84 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:39 am

give then the last patch as planed on live.

also, its hard to compared BO to SM. yes they have the same mechanic. but BO is pure defense, SM is pure offence. specing any other is only a hybrid.

Lermartes
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Re: Poll: BOs and SMs

Post#85 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:03 am

I would love to see just for the SM a reliable 2hd defense buff. Since they are based on swordmasters of hoeth.
I would start with The sword enchantments ; phantoms blade and heaven's blade. Turn them into group buffs, maybe nerve the numbers a bit. Also since the lore is about them using 2HD something in the way of adding block chances to parry so that we aren't forced to use snb. but that's just a brainfart and really pushing the lore. On the offensive I always focused on dealing spirit damage, but it never felt reliable in being a good continues form of dmg and it never scaled with weaponskill.
My personal experience with the BO isn't significant enough to really give a cent on him. They always did feel more like a mirror to the IB more than a mirror of the sm.
So I keep my hands off them and leave that to the BO players

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Coryphaus
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Re: Poll: BOs and SMs

Post#86 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:57 am

Ok heres some suggestions that ill throw out here and see what yall like; I know nothing really of sm so ill stick to BlOrc suggestions:

Tuffer N Nails buffs all grp mates armor or atleasts buffs defensive targets armor as well

Allow Da greenest to increase all resistances on hit, additionally allow it to (either 1):
A. while active reduce the critical dmg you and your grp mates take is reduced/or have reduced chance to be critically hit
B. Allow it to unlike chosen resist aura stack with other resists like chosen aura, and morks buffer

3. Rock Ard should also affect your defensive target or your whole grp

4. Mor Hardcore should be changed to a super punt tied to YMM cause the cd on that is 20s like most other super punts in the game

5. WAAGH should either debuff all resists or debuff spiritual and stacks with other resist debuffs, could also tie reduced cit mechanic here like suggested

6.We Iz Bigger changed to buff grp mates or defensive targets (pick one, or some):
A.Str
B.Ws
C.Block
D.Parry
E.Iniative
F.Chance to crit
G.Reduced chance to be crit/or amount of critical dmg
I. Toughness ( allow that to stack with m2 )


7.You Missed Me can now be proc’d with either block or parry
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Penril
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Re: Poll: BOs and SMs

Post#87 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:23 pm

36 players want a buff
18 say both classes are fine
2 want a nerf

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Coryphaus
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Re: Poll: BOs and SMs

Post#88 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:35 pm

Without someone comming and stating why they feel the classes are fine or need a nerf I can't take those votes seriously, especially the nerf votes


Should have put an explain next to the fine and nerf votes pen
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Jaycub
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Re: Poll: BOs and SMs

Post#89 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:40 pm

I voted nerf
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Penril
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Re: Poll: BOs and SMs

Post#90 » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:14 pm

Coryphaus wrote:Without someone comming and stating why they feel the classes are fine or need a nerf I can't take those votes seriously, especially the nerf votes


Should have put an explain next to the fine and nerf votes pen
Nerf has an "explain".

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