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Re: T2 Release!

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:21 pm
by Azarael
Renork wrote:
amputationsaw wrote:Will group heals get a rework? as soon as they were implemented I see more and more healers in SCs hiding in a corner beyond the fight spamming their group heal. would be nice see that this heals only heal the groupmates who are in sight.

What would be the point of a group heal if it required los though? I don't normally play a healer. Is there a game that requires a los check for group heals out there?
There should be. Why someone should be able to stand on the other side of a wall when using their magic heal that targets everyone in their group for them I do not know.

Re: T2 Release!

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:22 pm
by Jayzboi
amputationsaw wrote:Will group heals get a rework? as soon as they were implemented I see more and more healers in SCs hiding in a corner beyond the fight spamming their group heal. would be nice see that this heals only heal the groupmates who are in sight.
I had to edit this.

Why would you make any healers group heal not effective while they are LOS? That makes absolutely no sense.

Re: T2 Release!

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:24 pm
by magter3001
I would keep it as is, just wait for the incoming heal debuffs to come into the game and you'll see a huge difference. That paired with the /assist and melee trains and assist trains will be reborn and rule THE WORLD!!!@!@!#@$%!@$

BTW, thanks 4 the work Aza.

Re: T2 Release!

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:25 pm
by Renork
Azarael wrote:
Renork wrote:
amputationsaw wrote:Will group heals get a rework? as soon as they were implemented I see more and more healers in SCs hiding in a corner beyond the fight spamming their group heal. would be nice see that this heals only heal the groupmates who are in sight.

What would be the point of a group heal if it required los though? I don't normally play a healer. Is there a game that requires a los check for group heals out there?
There should be. Why someone should be able to stand on the other side of a wall when using their magic heal that targets everyone in their group for them I do not know.
Then, should dots stop ticking once the target moves out of sight? I play a Magi, and group heals are my bane. However; I have yet to play a game that requires los check for groups heals. Daoc/Rift/Aion/WoW/GW don't require los check for group heals. GoE/Reikland would be horrible places to be if heals required los check.

Re: T2 Release!

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:46 pm
by heteryk
Renork wrote:
Then, should dots stop ticking once the target moves out of sight?
No cause, it was aplied when target was in LOS.

Not sure if you got it. dots are not chaneled abilities. Rather an efect that stick to character for a period of time.

Re: T2 Release!

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:04 pm
by Renork
heteryk wrote:
Renork wrote:
Then, should dots stop ticking once the target moves out of sight?
No cause, it was aplied when target was in LOS.
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Re: T2 Release!

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:26 pm
by Tesq
cos there are some scenary in war where have los requir would make aoe heal impossible, also due to aoe being so strong and have so much range.
Don't hit aoe heals with out it the aoe, then dok/wp whole meccanic work around aoe heal, hit aoe heal would make dok/wp a lot less good.


Never happened that someone bother about aoe heals himself instead bother dok/wp strong aoe heals.

Re: T2 Release!

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:03 pm
by warhammer1995
amputationsaw wrote:Will group heals get a rework? as soon as they were implemented I see more and more healers in SCs hiding in a corner beyond the fight spamming their group heal. would be nice see that this heals only heal the groupmates who are in sight.


No sc group frames,so what other choise hawe healers?

Re: T2 Release!

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:05 pm
by warhammer1995
warhammer1995 wrote:
amputationsaw wrote:Will group heals get a rework? as soon as they were implemented I see more and more healers in SCs hiding in a corner beyond the fight spamming their group heal. would be nice see that this heals only heal the groupmates who are in sight.


No sc group frames,so what other choise hawe healers?
wait assist.

Re: T2 Release!

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:31 pm
by amputationsaw
warhammer1995 wrote:
amputationsaw wrote:Will group heals get a rework? as soon as they were implemented I see more and more healers in SCs hiding in a corner beyond the fight spamming their group heal. would be nice see that this heals only heal the groupmates who are in sight.


No sc group frames,so what other choise hawe healers?
the missing unit frames are an excuse of hiding and aoe spamming? I hope that's not the intent.
We healed without frames all the Time and it's hard, but not impossible.