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Re: Should We All Stop Playing Order?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:59 pm
by Tesq
Josewales wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:21 pm Why is this off topic? It’s about game balance. Trump vs. AOC is off topic!
better in off topic were it wont be kill due "balance" moderation stuff....

Re: Should We All Stop Playing Order?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:03 pm
by Tesq
labotimy wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:20 pm
Ysaran wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:54 am
wpc56 wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:02 am I'm referring to Order melee dps being inferior
that's not true. you are generalizing too much, you assertion is voluntarily ambiguous. Prove me that ALL order's mdps are worst than their destru mirrors
Every MDPS doesn't have to be inferior on Order side for destro to have advantage, some of the mirrors simply don't exist on order. SW being a dumpster class and not having viable melee spec is a huge problem, meanwhile Marauder exists. WL doesn't have a viable AoE spec or anything that warrants their existence in a WB, relegated to roamer/small scale specialists, meanwhile mSH is a very potent AoE class that you see everywhere now. Lets not even bring up GtdC ftm.

It's actually shocking how bad balance is currently. Destro has a massive advantage due to this melee imbalance, and currently it appears to be the freenown ezmode faction.
the goodpart is, it's not like order cant fight back, cuz there are bw wb which are still the most proficency meta on order till relase, but more like ppl creating a char and later on fell handicapped due some game direction. Why cant order have a batter balance INSIDE his realm? with more group construction variety and classes viable in more aspect of the game like destru?? thats the prob; not competition..

On the SW, imo SW dont need his assoult to have aoe aspect; more like it get countered too much by maras. A sw bring a 7% crit to whole group on top of his core aoe. Maybe he need a tweek but it dosen necessary need to be made wb viable like the squig. It is still a diff class it can use diff solutions.

Re: Should We All Stop Playing Order?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:21 pm
by dansari
Josewales wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:21 pm Why is this off topic? It’s about game balance. Trump vs. AOC is off topic!
This isn't about game balance.. game balance would be less whiney and more informative.

Re: Should We All Stop Playing Order?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:36 pm
by zgolec
Josewales wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:21 pm Why is this off topic? It’s about game balance. Trump vs. AOC is off topic!
**** aoc and rest socialist scum :P

Re: Should We All Stop Playing Order?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:51 pm
by Zod24
Yes, you should all stop playing Order.

Re: Should We All Stop Playing Order?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:56 pm
by BeautfulToad
labotimy wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:20 pm
Ysaran wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:54 am
wpc56 wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:02 am I'm referring to Order melee dps being inferior
that's not true. you are generalizing too much, you assertion is voluntarily ambiguous. Prove me that ALL order's mdps are worst than their destru mirrors
Every MDPS doesn't have to be inferior on Order side for destro to have advantage, some of the mirrors simply don't exist on order. SW being a dumpster class and not having viable melee spec is a huge problem, meanwhile Marauder exists. WL doesn't have a viable AoE spec or anything that warrants their existence in a WB, relegated to roamer/small scale specialists, meanwhile mSH is a very potent AoE class that you see everywhere now. Lets not even bring up GtdC ftm.

It's actually shocking how bad balance is currently. Destro has a massive advantage due to this melee imbalance, and currently it appears to be the freenown ezmode faction.
I just dont agree. A solid order 6man beats a solid destro 6man.

Order can make top quality warbands. Tesq's point about balance changes are all about making more classes more WB viable. That means 1 or 2 extra melee classes.

I have heard melee SW is actually pretty good. My problem with it is that you need to be a high level to be a melee SW, Id prefer it the other way. You are a melee character and can opt to get ranged attacks which soften up or incapacitate enemies if you spec them. Or at least a revamp of melee for SW, primarily something that does not need 40/70 to try out properly

Re: Should We All Stop Playing Order?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:28 pm
by shaggyboomboom
You people should really go outside for a while

Re: Should We All Stop Playing Order?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:58 pm
by Jastojan
This is hot screenshot from recent/ actual TM! See the result right down corner.
https://paste.pics/64SQ5

So the answer is - yes. You should all stop playing Order (and stop crying about destro). Howgh.

Re: Should We All Stop Playing Order?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:59 pm
by Tesq
shaggyboomboom wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:28 pm You people should really go outside for a while
you should really had all your chars deleted, forced to re roll only wh/wl, and be able to play em only in wb till you get it right :P

Re: Should We All Stop Playing Order?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:12 pm
by drmordread
Hey this is a good thing. Will force people to roll tanks and maybe change to a heal spec on their dps AM's.