Return of Reckoning

Maraudeur changes are not that bad.
TB wounds debuff reduce by half is ok , and the change of the skill tree is good.
You gain some armor debuff value because if you need TB, you have to invest more point .
Draining swipe change is cool ,10 sec cooldown means a much smoother savagery rotation.

Only downside i can see is that you have to be high rr (renown rank 70) to do the cookie cutter build, but we gain a smoother full savagery rotation , a better survivability in monstro .
Wounds debuff value was too high ,and i can live with a 950 wounds debuff. I think i still take it ,because it has a high tooltip (highest damage for a savagery skill) and i run a no stance dance build most of the time .

peterthepan3 wrote:WL is a better pug killer, marauder is the better premade killer.

What about WL+SM+SL/WH combination and their synergy?It's ok,right?

Destromagus wrote:

peterthepan3 wrote:WL is a better pug killer, marauder is the better premade killer.

What about WL+SM+SL/WH combination and their synergy?It's ok,right?

It's very good, but its very niche and arguably one-trick pony against enemies who can anticipate it (M1 burst rotations).

peterthepan3 wrote:

Destromagus wrote:

peterthepan3 wrote:WL is a better pug killer, marauder is the better premade killer.

What about WL+SM+SL/WH combination and their synergy?It's ok,right?

It's very good, but its very niche and arguably one-trick pony against enemies who can anticipate it (M1 burst rotations).

So why 9 of 10 6x6 premades like play one-trick pony setup?

Cuz destro doesn't have any hc commited premades, and that setup is best pug farmer.

Destromagus wrote:

peterthepan3 wrote:

Destromagus wrote: What about WL+SM+SL/WH combination and their synergy?It's ok,right?

It's very good, but its very niche and arguably one-trick pony against enemies who can anticipate it (M1 burst rotations).

So why 9 of 10 6x6 premades like play one-trick pony setup?

because 9 out of 10 order premades are pug farmers and choose the comp that nets the fastest kills. also, there's like 0 competitive action on the server so most choose comps that thrive vs the majority, i.e. pugs.

Keep the epeen contests out of patch notes threads.

Bozzax wrote:Fake news peter

The best premade on this server was WL + SM + SL (WH wrks as well) (farmed you and anyone else on dest like cattle)

At that point there was comp. 9/10 use it since it is meta.

I didn't say it wasn't good (I infact said it's very good), I said that it was a one-trick pony against competent opposition - particularly the WL/SM/WH. It does and can work to great success, but that doesn't take away from the fact that what the comp revolves around, i.e. burst synergies via WL M1/WH pop/SM m2, can be anticipated and dealt with. It's just a shame that there aren't many active competent destro premades that can actually showcase this (Teefz/LoB show this nicely).

my op was that WL > Mara for pug farming, and mara is a better premade class overall. is that wrong?

Keep epeen contests out of patch notes thread, i won't sya this again.

Lack of groups, toxic players, unrewarding concept of SCs and huge realm imbalances killed the 6vs6 community.